Talsimanic numerals on Penisular kerises (keris abjad)

alexish · 12th April 2018, 08:52 AM

Dear collectors,

Anyone familiar with talismanic numerals on Peninsular kerises. I believe they are called keris abjad.

What do these talismanic numerals mean?

alexish · 12th April 2018, 08:57 AM

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David · 12th April 2018, 03:43 PM

From my understanding Alexis, talismanic numerals placed in this context are usually pretty personal. I don't think anyone could tell you exactly what any of this means beyond the original owners and perhaps the person who inscribed them. But letters and words can also be ascribed numerical value in certain alphabets and these arrangements of numbers become a code. I would not be surprised if many of these relate to passages in the Koran intended to have some great magical value in their inscription.
If you are planning on having your Madura pandai whip up some new versions of these i would think twice.

12th April 2018, 08:52 AM	#1
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Talsimanic numerals on Penisular kerises (keris abjad) Dear collectors, Anyone familiar with talismanic numerals on Peninsular kerises. I believe they are called keris abjad. What do these talismanic numerals mean? Attached Images

12th April 2018, 08:57 AM	#2
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Here are some more pictures. Attached Images

12th April 2018, 03:43 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	From my understanding Alexis, talismanic numerals placed in this context are usually pretty personal. I don't think anyone could tell you exactly what any of this means beyond the original owners and perhaps the person who inscribed them. But letters and words can also be ascribed numerical value in certain alphabets and these arrangements of numbers become a code. I would not be surprised if many of these relate to passages in the Koran intended to have some great magical value in their inscription. If you are planning on having your Madura pandai whip up some new versions of these i would think twice.