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Here for viewing is a moro banking. This is the only one I have ever run across in years of collecting moro stuff. according to Cato it is one of the rarest of the moro swords. 20 inch laminated blade with a wood handle and cockatoo pommel. Does anyone own a bankung that they could post some pictures here?.........Dave.
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Hello Dave, Very nice bankung. This is the first one that I think I have ever seen with a cockatoo pommel. As I am still looking for one of these to add to my own collection unfortunately I have no photos to share. I know others here on the forum have posted theirs in the past so I too am looking forward to see how many of those as well as new ones will get posted here. My congratulations to you on acquiring this very interesting example.
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Here is a specimen.
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Hello Nonoy,
Yup, this sold recently: Good blade and a cracked hilt that can probably be fixed with some care. BTW, am I the only one to believe this basket scabbard is a later non-Moro replacement? All other scabbard examples I saw were typical Sulu or Palawan types. Regards, Kai |
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Hello Dave,
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I'm attaching a pic of my bangkung and hope others will do, too. Regards, Kai |
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Here's mine. I've posted this awhile back.
OAL 22.5 in. Blade 16" I know where Kai's Bankung is hiding! |
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Hi Kai,
I am not familiar with the origin of the scabbard, but assume that it was likely not rare nor special at that time. This "bangkung" was likely a farm or chopping tool and perhaps did not need an elaborate scabbard in the first place. I am not sure if it would be appropriate to classify the scabbard as "moro" or "non-moro." Here is a photo from Krieger's 1926 work. The basketry on the left is attributed to Basilan of the Sulu Archipelago. Nonoy |
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BANGKUNG IS IT A MORO SWORD THAT INFLUENCED THE BAGOBO/TIBOLI SWORDS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
![]() #1.,#2. & #3. A LONG BANGKUNG MANTERIS HAD. IT WAS AT LEAST 25IN. LONG. AND HAD GOOD PATINA AND WAS IN PERFECT SHAPE. #4., #5., #6, & #7. SAID TO BE PALAWAN, TAQBANUA TRIBE #8. & #9. TWO EXAMPLES OF THE UNUSUAL BENT BLADED SWORD. #10. BAGOBO/ TIBOLI SWORDS, WITH BANGKUNG LIKE BLADES. Last edited by VANDOO; 31st March 2014 at 05:18 PM. |
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Hello all,
Here's mine. OAL 27.5"/700mm |
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Here are my examples. Technically the top example is NOT a bangkung, but certainly serves the same function. That shorter one is surprisingly heavier than either of the larger examples shown.
The scabbards on the top and middle one are new. Last edited by CharlesS; 1st April 2014 at 12:56 AM. |
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Kino,
I think your example is, from top to bottom, the finest example I have seen of a bangkung. The lovely blade, along with the extraordinary hilt and pommel make it quite a fine piece. The thickened reinforcement at the forte reminds me of many Indonesian klewang styles I have seen. Wonder if there has to be some influence there? |
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The fact the Krieger is specific enough to call these "bolo" cases at least makes it a strong possibility that your example's blade and scabbard were, even if not born together(and they may have been), at least likely together for a very long time. If only he had included an example of a "bolo" with them it would really give us a more decisive answer. |
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i never knew that there was a moro version of bangkung..
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Nice to see all the variations of the Bangkung in one place.
Perhaps the last one, without a scabbard, once was as nice as Kino's? Michael |
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Some very nice bankung, thank's to all for showing!
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Thanks for the kind words.
Day one in my possession, the bangkung was covered with rust and was pitted. With a lot of help from a knife maker we got the blade to its current state. Now here's a hybrid (wish it were mine), is it a BANGRIS or a KRIKUNG. No matter what it's called, I call it beautiful. If the owner is a forum member, post some photos will ya! |
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Kino, I have seen this piece and it is much smaller than an average kangkung. It does not have that kind of weight. I believed it was exclusively a status piece. And, no...it is not mine. Last edited by CharlesS; 2nd April 2014 at 02:08 PM. |
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![]() The back edge is quite long. |
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Hello Gustav,
I'd posit that this is a shandigris (with backedge)... ![]() (This looks more like a barung-like blade for slashing rather than the chopping action most bangkung blades are optimized for.) Regards, Kai |
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Hello Charles,
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BTW, here's Artzi's description of the blade: "The blade is heavy, 20 inches long, single edged and hollow ground. It is forged from fine laminated steel." Regards, Kai |
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Kai, The blade on Artzi's sword was not as wide as a traditional bangkung, especially with the unusual, somewhat extreme, narrowing at the forte. Nor did it have as thick of a spine as a traditional bangkung. It certainly didn't strike me as a utilitarian sword. |
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here's mine.
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http://mydestiny2011.org/wp-content/...s/kangkung.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangkung so now you're making me crave for kangkung and not a place to buy the darn thing around here, lol ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I also handled Artzi's strange sword when in Baltimore and agree with Charles.
It's much to light and slim to be either a bangkris or a krikung. Here is an example of a "typical" bangkris. Kai, I think there already is a thread somewhere on my strange sword from Artzi that you reposted. Michael |
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Ha! Yes Ron, it was a typo and I'm a bad boy being a teacher who doesn't proofread! The time limit has elapsed for me to edit it. Thank God my students would never likely come near this site...they would love to catch me in any error! ![]() |
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