Advice on shrinked scabbards?

VVV · 27th April 2005, 11:08 AM

Dear forumites,

Now it has happened again - I can't get one of my Tenegre out of it's wooden scabbard. This is the second time it has happened to me and for some strange reasons it has only involved my Visayan swords.
All practical advice appreciated.

Thanks,

Michael

Ian · 27th April 2005, 01:53 PM

That's odd. Don't think I have had that problem with wooden scabbards -- leather certainly.

Have you tried rocking the sword back and forth to free it up. Sometimes a fat-bellied blade will get stuck but you can usually wiggle it loose. Eventually they do come out. Be careful the edge doesn't work through the scabbard and bite you.

Would you post some pictures of the bolo and scabbard when you get it out.

VVV · 27th April 2005, 02:21 PM

Hi Ian,

Sure, as soon as I get it out

I have tried the wiggling part already but on the top of the scabbard there is a broad leather band.
Maybe that's what has shrunk due to change of climate?
Do you have any tips on how to solve that?

Thanks,

Michael

Rick · 27th April 2005, 03:07 PM

Leather Therapy (product) perhaps ?
Look at your local tack shop or do a web search .
After getting it out Possibly a little silicone spray down the scabbard mouth ?

Ian · 27th April 2005, 05:39 PM

Ah yes, the leather around the throat. That could be the problem.

I've also found that a little Renaissance Wax, and probably other silicone-based polishes too, applied to the blade helps things slide smoother as well protecting from rust.

VVV · 27th April 2005, 06:35 PM

I made it!
With a combination of both advices and a little force.
Here it is, the longnosed beauty.
Got it from Artzi.

Thanks,

Michael

Spunjer · 27th April 2005, 06:51 PM

beautiful sanduko, mike. congrats. now oil that baby before it get stuck again...

Ian · 27th April 2005, 08:31 PM

Michael:

Very nice sanduko bolo -- these are very uncommon and hard to find in such good condition. Lovely hilt.

Must get Battara to take a look at this one -- Jose, what you think one of these silver hilts would cost to make?

VVV · 27th April 2005, 10:45 PM

Thanks all,

Now it's oiled and as a bonus I even know what it is.

Michael

tom hyle · 28th April 2005, 02:24 AM

Wow; deluxo!

Rick · 28th April 2005, 03:22 AM

Have you identified the domed coins that are used on this hilt ?
As I recall it is missing one or two on the other side , no ?
These could probably be easily replaced .

Silver is a snap to work with .

VVV · 28th April 2005, 11:01 PM

Yes, it's the opposite "ear-part" that is missing a coin and 2 smaller silver disks. Not sure if I really want to replace it.

Michael

Battara · 30th April 2005, 02:49 PM

I had been looking at that and what the replacement needs would be. I would have to price out US issued PI silver coins of the same era and then shape them and then work on the silver stem to make them stay. Not that difficult of a process overall. Most of the price would depend on the coins used.

Rick · 30th April 2005, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Have you identified the domed coins that are used on this hilt ?
As I recall it is missing one or two on the other side , no ?
These could probably be easily replaced .

Silver is a snap to work with .

I should have qualified that statement a little ; work such as this is fairly easy ; when I was a kid we all made rings from silver quarters ; lots of tapping on the edge and after a few hours , drill out the center and file smooth .

Now repousse and engraving etc. that's a whole 'nother ball game .

VVV · 30th April 2005, 05:03 PM

Thanks, will give it a try.
But have to wait until next time in US to get the proper coins.

Michael

Battara · 30th April 2005, 06:23 PM

Sorry Ian, did not read your post as carefully as I should have. To make this hilt out of silver.....hmmm......the work itself might cost $500? Lot of work would go into something like this. Wonderful puppy!(woof)

27th April 2005, 11:08 AM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Advice on shrinked scabbards? Dear forumites, Now it has happened again - I can't get one of my Tenegre out of it's wooden scabbard. This is the second time it has happened to me and for some strange reasons it has only involved my Visayan swords. All practical advice appreciated. Thanks, Michael

27th April 2005, 06:35 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I made it! With a combination of both advices and a little force. Here it is, the longnosed beauty. Got it from Artzi. Thanks, Michael Attached Images

27th April 2005, 08:31 PM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Sweet Michael: Very nice sanduko bolo -- these are very uncommon and hard to find in such good condition. Lovely hilt. Must get Battara to take a look at this one -- Jose, what you think one of these silver hilts would cost to make?

27th April 2005, 01:53 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	That's odd. Don't think I have had that problem with wooden scabbards -- leather certainly. Have you tried rocking the sword back and forth to free it up. Sometimes a fat-bellied blade will get stuck but you can usually wiggle it loose. Eventually they do come out. Be careful the edge doesn't work through the scabbard and bite you. Would you post some pictures of the bolo and scabbard when you get it out.

27th April 2005, 02:21 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Ian, Sure, as soon as I get it out I have tried the wiggling part already but on the top of the scabbard there is a broad leather band. Maybe that's what has shrunk due to change of climate? Do you have any tips on how to solve that? Thanks, Michael

27th April 2005, 03:07 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Leather Therapy (product) perhaps ? Look at your local tack shop or do a web search . After getting it out Possibly a little silicone spray down the scabbard mouth ?

27th April 2005, 05:39 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Ah yes, the leather around the throat. That could be the problem. I've also found that a little Renaissance Wax, and probably other silicone-based polishes too, applied to the blade helps things slide smoother as well protecting from rust.

27th April 2005, 06:51 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	beautiful sanduko, mike. congrats. now oil that baby before it get stuck again...

27th April 2005, 10:45 PM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks all, Now it's oiled and as a bonus I even know what it is. Michael

28th April 2005, 02:24 AM	#10
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Wow; deluxo!

28th April 2005, 03:22 AM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Have you identified the domed coins that are used on this hilt ? As I recall it is missing one or two on the other side , no ? These could probably be easily replaced . Silver is a snap to work with .

28th April 2005, 11:01 PM	#12
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Yes, it's the opposite "ear-part" that is missing a coin and 2 smaller silver disks. Not sure if I really want to replace it. Michael

30th April 2005, 02:49 PM	#13
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	I had been looking at that and what the replacement needs would be. I would have to price out US issued PI silver coins of the same era and then shape them and then work on the silver stem to make them stay. Not that difficult of a process overall. Most of the price would depend on the coins used.

30th April 2005, 05:03 PM	#15
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks, will give it a try. But have to wait until next time in US to get the proper coins. Michael

30th April 2005, 06:23 PM	#16
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Sorry Ian, did not read your post as carefully as I should have. To make this hilt out of silver.....hmmm......the work itself might cost $500? Lot of work would go into something like this. Wonderful puppy!(woof)