A strange pesh kabz

CNK1 · 13th January 2018, 04:48 PM

Hello everyone,

all the best wishes for this new year ! Happy to begin this year with you.

I've recently find this pesh kabz (not really sure). I don't honestly what thinking about the beginning of the blade, I found really strange the bites.

So I ask you what do you think it could be ? An old restauration works ? A poor quality works from the blacksmith ? Or maybe something else ?

To me it's the mark of an old restauration. I don't think about a poor works because the blade looks damascus (isn't it?) !

Best regards

Ian · 13th January 2018, 05:09 PM

The pitting looks like the effect of old rust resulting from that area previously being covered with some decorative metal. The handle has likely been replaced on this one IMHO.

Ian.

CNK1 · 13th January 2018, 09:27 PM

Oh yes for sure the handle has been replaced, this is why I was thinking to a restauration work !

shayde78 · 13th January 2018, 09:40 PM

Interesting that this item has a very similar profile to mine posted here

My thoughts on the pitting are that it could have been caused by rust that formed where the wood of the sheath may have trapped moisture against the blade. Although much of the hilt is covered by the sheath, it tightens against the blade right where yours shows pitting. If someone has since polished away the rust, it may well look like your example.

Battara · 13th January 2018, 10:04 PM

I agree that there is a lot of pitting, and that it does look like someone has "painted" (?) over the active rust.

When I restore pieces with this type of pitting, I try to get down as much as possible, but know that there will always be a certain amount of pitting left. The reason is that if you remove all of the pitting, there might not be much of a blade left or the blade will be too thin to be useful depending on how deep the pitting goes.

shastardhari · 24th January 2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I agree that there is a lot of pitting, and that it does look like someone has "painted" (?) over the active rust.

When I restore pieces with this type of pitting, I try to get down as much as possible, but know that there will always be a certain amount of pitting left. The reason is that if you remove all of the pitting, there might not be much of a blade left or the blade will be too thin to be useful depending on how deep the pitting goes.

Agreed!

13th January 2018, 04:48 PM	#1
CNK1 Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: France Posts: 41	A strange pesh kabz Hello everyone, all the best wishes for this new year ! Happy to begin this year with you. I've recently find this pesh kabz (not really sure). I don't honestly what thinking about the beginning of the blade, I found really strange the bites. So I ask you what do you think it could be ? An old restauration works ? A poor quality works from the blacksmith ? Or maybe something else ? To me it's the mark of an old restauration. I don't think about a poor works because the blade looks damascus (isn't it?) ! Best regards Attached Images

13th January 2018, 05:09 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	The pitting looks like the effect of old rust resulting from that area previously being covered with some decorative metal. The handle has likely been replaced on this one IMHO. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 13th January 2018 at 05:23 PM.

13th January 2018, 09:27 PM	#3
CNK1 Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: France Posts: 41	Oh yes for sure the handle has been replaced, this is why I was thinking to a restauration work !

13th January 2018, 09:40 PM	#4
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Interesting that this item has a very similar profile to mine posted here My thoughts on the pitting are that it could have been caused by rust that formed where the wood of the sheath may have trapped moisture against the blade. Although much of the hilt is covered by the sheath, it tightens against the blade right where yours shows pitting. If someone has since polished away the rust, it may well look like your example.

13th January 2018, 10:04 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	I agree that there is a lot of pitting, and that it does look like someone has "painted" (?) over the active rust. When I restore pieces with this type of pitting, I try to get down as much as possible, but know that there will always be a certain amount of pitting left. The reason is that if you remove all of the pitting, there might not be much of a blade left or the blade will be too thin to be useful depending on how deep the pitting goes.