19th September 2016, 11:39 PM | #1 | |
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The Erbach Sword
I was fortunate to own the sword that I am going to share with you. I obtained it from George Douglass, actually his estate after he died back in 1995. I sold it two years ago to the Met where it is on display, or so I am told. George's name might ring a bell for some students inasmuch as his dad, George Sr., was one of the founders of the arms and armor club along with Bashford Dean. In fact, he and Dean went on buying trips to Europe. I bought a number of things from George Jr. and since his interest was not really in the armor and arms area, I suspect that these things were acquired by his dad.
I never owned up to owning it prior to this, now that it's safely at the Met there is no harm. It was evidently fairly well known in some circles; Oakschott told me that he knew of it. I am going to reproduce the writeup that was done by the Met ages ago. The sword was on display there for a while prior to my obtaining it. Quote:
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19th September 2016, 11:46 PM | #2 |
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Schloss Erbach contains a well known armory from which piecs were sold at a number of well known sales early in the past century.
The post card that is reproduced shows the sword on display. At least one of the Graffs was well known for outright swiping of stuff. There is a story of him absconding from the Vatican with an object under his cloak. I think that the shield that is in front of the sword is also now at the Met. Gotta check on that. |
20th September 2016, 12:02 AM | #3 |
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These engravings show a classic 16th century battle scene with a medallion of Marcus Curtius descending into hell.
For completeness I am also showing the medallion from the other side. This shows Gaius Mucius Scaevola putting his hand into the flames. These were two popular and inspiring images at the time and they both appear on the helmet of the royal Saxon guard. The helmet was in the Higgins Armory Collection and kindly made available to me by Kent Russell, curator at the time. |
20th September 2016, 04:47 AM | #4 |
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A remarkable piece! Thank for sharing the story of its provenance. I do not recall seeing it on display at the Met when I visited last month, but perhaps I overlooked it... I did get a photo of the Italian sword mentioned; there is no image of it in the Met's online collection as yet.
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20th September 2016, 06:41 AM | #5 |
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Thank you for sharing this remarkable and well-provenance example, Ed.
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20th September 2016, 12:56 PM | #6 |
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Great sword, Ed .
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24th September 2016, 01:20 AM | #7 |
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This superb sword is on display (or was 3 months ago), in a case in the middle of the gallery. Its label gives its provenance as Erbach castle but says that it is on loan from Laird & Kathleen Landmann, from 2013, not owned by the Met. Very odd, considering Ed's account of it above. The Landmanns are noted elsewhere in the gallery as both donors and lenders of other items of arms & armour, especially swords.
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24th September 2016, 08:45 AM | #8 |
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A magnificent sword , it seems more people claim ownership or previous ownership
that or the MET made a mistake |
8th October 2019, 02:13 PM | #9 |
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I am resurrecting this thread to add a bit more information.
Laird Landsmann did, indeed, purchase the sword from me. I didn't mention that detail because I was not sure how the Met was going to handle it, whether the loan would be Anonymous or not. Obviously it is public so I can amplify. What happened was that I had two pieces that the Met wanted, a half armor and the sword. They bought the armor outright. Laird had bought and either donated or loaned a number of swords to the Met so he was approached to make the acquisition of the sword and then make the loan. My understanding is that it is on permanent loan but that info could be wrong. I suspect that the sword will be at the Met forever. |
9th October 2019, 04:53 AM | #10 |
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Do you have enough info/ pictures to share the half armor also? |
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16th October 2019, 04:42 PM | #12 |
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It remembers me of those stocks given away by the popes to those "defenders of the faith", like the one for Don Juan de Austria and that of the count of Tendilla.
There is a list of receivers here: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoque_y_Capelo_bendito But of course, a related inscription would be something to be expected. Last edited by midelburgo; 16th October 2019 at 05:57 PM. |
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