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http://ww2.ru/forum/index.php?act=at...post&id=230940
This is posted on a Russian forum. My question: -What is it? -How old? -Where from? Those of you who can read Russian are humbly asked to keep quiet. |
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Hi Ariel,
All I see is some hirsute, well fed gentlemen, pretending to be WWI soldiers. Is there supposed to be something else??? Jeff |
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That too is all that I see. Is it something in the picture you refer to?
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I don't understand: I can see it just fine...
But... Try this link, to the entire post: http://ww2.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=62025 |
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Nope doesn't help. Try posting the image here.
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Ariel, I am afraid that in order for one to see the image, one needs to be registered with the forum where it is posted. I can read the topic, but since I am not registered, I cannot see the object being discussed, and I guess others have the same problem.
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How about that?
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I can see it now and it is deffinitely interesting. Since I can read Russian, I am not going to comment any further.
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Oh what the heck! I will get things started. I haven't a clue but it looks like bits and pieces perhaps "trench art". Do you have any close ups of any of the details?
All the best Jeff |
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As the image is longer than my 17" monitor, my immeadiate thoughts were a spear tip or finial of some sort as I have seen on some military lances, but when I scrolled across the screen to see the rest of the picture and saw the end capped, to me it is remanicant of the American silver handled cultlery bowie knives but in a russian form I am guessing, as the forum from the original posting appears Russian and you have mentioned Russian above.
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This is a really attractive dagger that I cannot resist comparing in appearance to plug bayonets, however the hilt would suggest that use obviously not likely, especially with the knob type pommel. Since plug bayonets often were used aside from the intended use as daggers or hunting knives, it seems that they did in some cases may have remained as an accoutrement even after obsolete.Possibly ceremonial or dress example of one refurbished?
I may be way off base on this as I saw nothing similar in Evans ("The Plug Bayonet") but thought I would present the suggestion anyway ![]() Fire at will ! |
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A close up of those marks on the forte, would be an interesting track.
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Hi. it looks like a Fairbairn Sykes 'copy' blade and crossguard with a 'candle stick' hilt ![]() Hi Fernando, this may help..... Regards David Last edited by katana; 27th May 2008 at 11:07 AM. |
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I'm not skilled enough to distinguish what's there myself ... and i don't know russian either ![]() Probably Ariel knows all about it by now and is laughing in the back stage ![]() Best Fernando |
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Well, this is the Babel fish 'translation' of the link provided by Ariel and I'm still in the 'dark'
![]() http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/transl...rUrl=Translate Regards David |
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After reading the translation I was left with the impression that this is at least a married piece or perhaps an outright fake .
![]() Burying it outside the dacha ?!? ![]() Good way to add age where it doesn't exist . ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() I bet your elementary school teachers are blushing! Seriously, this is an exaple of what is called "fuflo" ( foof-LO) in Russian lingo: a fake. This was intended to be a joke and the original creator openly described the process ( probably took him ~ 2 hours total). After that, there is a raucous discussion what kind of booze might produce the most acidic and "aging" urine to make this "fuflo" look properly antique. All was above board. There was no intent to deceive anybody. However..... I put it here just to show that there are very professional people around the world who , if they want, can inflict a lot of confusion.... Caveat emptor!! |
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