Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris

Patje1970 · 9th June 2019, 04:10 PM

Hi all,

Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris based on the photo's?

regards Pat

Sajen · 9th June 2019, 04:40 PM

Beras wutah!

drdavid · 9th June 2019, 11:15 PM

Beras wutah for me too
DrD

Patje1970 · 10th June 2019, 07:45 AM

thanks for the info

regards Pat

Marcokeris · 10th June 2019, 11:54 AM

Ngulit Semangka

A. G. Maisey · 10th June 2019, 01:42 PM

Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?

Marcokeris · 10th June 2019, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?

IMO because the blade has very little layers

A. G. Maisey · 10th June 2019, 02:06 PM

Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".

Marcokeris · 10th June 2019, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".

Thanks

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Beras wutah!

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drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Beras wutah for me too DrD

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Patje1970 Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 51	thanks for the info regards Pat

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Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Ngulit Semangka

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?

10th June 2019, 02:06 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko. I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface. Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".