16 th or 15 th century blade with Passau running wolf for ID

Cerjak · 22nd December 2015, 11:43 AM

I have bought this 17th century hunting sword specially for its earlier broad tapering blade .It has a shallow central fuller about 20 cm for 68.5 cm in blade, wide 6.4 cm near the hilt and 4cm near the tip and also running wolf and star mark on each face.
The blade is still sharpened and I believe that it had been a very efficient cutting sword during its livetime.
It seems that according the passau mark this blade could be from the 15 th or 16 th century may be a member could let me know from which type of sword this blade come from.
Any comment on it would be welcome
Best

Cerjak

Cerjak · 22nd December 2015, 11:44 AM

passau running wolf

fernando · 22nd December 2015, 12:05 PM

Very very nice, Jean-Luc.
Any signs that it has been a longer blade ?

Cerjak · 22nd December 2015, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Very very nice, Jean-Luc.
Any signs that it has been a longer blade ?

Hi fernando,

To me it seems that this blade is still in his original size and don't see any signs that it had been shortened.
I sure that Jasper could let us know .
Best

Jean-Luc

Cerjak · 22nd December 2015, 02:52 PM

May be a variant from the Oakeshott's Type XXII ? Broad and flat
But have only one fuller and not two
This types were popular in the 15th century and lasted into the 16th century

Cerjak · 22nd December 2015, 02:53 PM

PICTURES

cornelistromp · 22nd December 2015, 06:18 PM

Hi Jean Luc,

yes true!

the blade is belonging to a so-called short sword, probably German / Swiss.
probably not shortened because the shoulders are rounded, @ this type quillons often curve in the plan of the blade there for the bladeshoulder are of a rounded shape. see picture of a sword from my collection of type XXII
this sword is very light in hand and swift, a perfect tool for close combat.

The blade of post #1 is from around 1490 and the guard and grip are 135- years later.

Very nice to see how high-quality blades were reused and did get a second life.

ps. jean-Luc These are not double fuller blades but have a decoration line on each side of the single fuller, but there are plenty examples of oakeshott XXII with multiple fullers

attached:Albrecht Dürer: The Betrayal of Christ.

best,
Jasper

22nd December 2015, 11:44 AM	#2
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	passau running wolf Attached Images

22nd December 2015, 02:53 PM	#6
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	PICTURES Attached Images

22nd December 2015, 06:18 PM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	Hi Jean Luc, yes true! the blade is belonging to a so-called short sword, probably German / Swiss. probably not shortened because the shoulders are rounded, @ this type quillons often curve in the plan of the blade there for the bladeshoulder are of a rounded shape. see picture of a sword from my collection of type XXII this sword is very light in hand and swift, a perfect tool for close combat. The blade of post #1 is from around 1490 and the guard and grip are 135- years later. Very nice to see how high-quality blades were reused and did get a second life. ps. jean-Luc These are not double fuller blades but have a decoration line on each side of the single fuller, but there are plenty examples of oakeshott XXII with multiple fullers attached:Albrecht Dürer: The Betrayal of Christ. best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 22nd December 2015 at 08:32 PM.

22nd December 2015, 11:43 AM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	16 th or 15 th century blade with Passau running wolf for ID I have bought this 17th century hunting sword specially for its earlier broad tapering blade .It has a shallow central fuller about 20 cm for 68.5 cm in blade, wide 6.4 cm near the hilt and 4cm near the tip and also running wolf and star mark on each face. The blade is still sharpened and I believe that it had been a very efficient cutting sword during its livetime. It seems that according the passau mark this blade could be from the 15 th or 16 th century may be a member could let me know from which type of sword this blade come from. Any comment on it would be welcome Best Cerjak Attached Images

22nd December 2015, 12:05 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very very nice, Jean-Luc. Any signs that it has been a longer blade ?

22nd December 2015, 02:52 PM	#5
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	May be a variant from the Oakeshott's Type XXII ? Broad and flat But have only one fuller and not two This types were popular in the 15th century and lasted into the 16th century