Zulu?

chregu · 30th March 2010, 09:32 PM

hello together
also the same friend. These two spearheads (zulu?)
I am a bit perplexed, they are very heavy. 1m length, 10mm thickness and the other 8mm
real or not? the color of the material makes me worry. I'm not even sure if this is iron!
One idea that might be?
gruss Chregu

Henk · 30th March 2010, 09:49 PM

Very nice blades. Not my field of interest and knowledge, but i would say that these spearblades are Masai.

stekemest · 30th March 2010, 11:09 PM

Masai, I have nearly the same.

Battara · 31st March 2010, 12:35 AM

Not Zulu for sure.

Lew · 31st March 2010, 03:28 AM

Thet are Masai spears minus the shaft.

chregu · 4th April 2010, 03:14 PM

hello together
many thanks for your info.
the Masai, and it is not Zulu, is clear, was already late, smile.
gruss Chregu

Tim Simmons · 5th April 2010, 06:03 PM

These are some of the stars of my collection. I believe this form of spear is known in the collecting world partly because of "Stone" as old Massai.

Spearcollector · 5th April 2010, 08:15 PM

Hi, These are Masaï spear tips of the '50 for sure.
You can see some older Masaï spears on the website, Kenya, Masaï

Kind regards.

Spearcollector
www.spearcollector.com

Tim Simmons · 5th April 2010, 09:27 PM

The "Spear Collector" is right. But not all long versions are "vintage" This picture is from a book published in 1918. The pictures would have come from a publishers picture archive, so could well be a picture taken from much earlier than 1918.

VANDOO · 6th April 2010, 06:14 AM

THERE IS MORE THAN ONE FORM OF MASAI SPEAR AND SOME DENOTED AN ELDER WARRIOR AND OTHERS A YOUNGER CLASS OF WARRIOR. THE LONG BLADED ONES ARE OFTEN REFERRED TO AS LION SPEARS. I WOULD THINK THE LONGER DOUBLE EDGED BLADE ON THESE SPEARS WOULD DO MORE DAMMAGE WHEN USED TO IMPAIL A LION WHILE KNEELING BEHIND YOUR SHIELD. THERE MAY BE A LINK TO A FILM SHOWING A MASAI WARRIOR KILLING A LION IN THIS TRADITIONAL WAY. IT IS NO LONGER DONE TO SHOW BRAVERY AND AS A RITE OF PASSAGE INTO MANHOOD.

30th March 2010, 09:32 PM	#1
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Zulu? hello together also the same friend. These two spearheads (zulu?) I am a bit perplexed, they are very heavy. 1m length, 10mm thickness and the other 8mm real or not? the color of the material makes me worry. I'm not even sure if this is iron! One idea that might be? gruss Chregu Attached Images

5th April 2010, 06:03 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	These are some of the stars of my collection. I believe this form of spear is known in the collecting world partly because of "Stone" as old Massai. Attached Images

5th April 2010, 08:15 PM	#8
Spearcollector Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11	Speartips information Hi, These are Masaï spear tips of the '50 for sure. You can see some older Masaï spears on the website, Kenya, Masaï Kind regards. Spearcollector www.spearcollector.com

5th April 2010, 09:27 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	The "Spear Collector" is right. But not all long versions are "vintage" This picture is from a book published in 1918. The pictures would have come from a publishers picture archive, so could well be a picture taken from much earlier than 1918. Attached Images

30th March 2010, 09:49 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Very nice blades. Not my field of interest and knowledge, but i would say that these spearblades are Masai.

30th March 2010, 11:09 PM	#3
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 182	Masai, I have nearly the same.

31st March 2010, 12:35 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Not Zulu for sure.

31st March 2010, 03:28 AM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Thet are Masai spears minus the shaft.

4th April 2010, 03:14 PM	#6
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together many thanks for your info. the Masai, and it is not Zulu, is clear, was already late, smile. gruss Chregu

6th April 2010, 06:14 AM	#10
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THERE IS MORE THAN ONE FORM OF MASAI SPEAR AND SOME DENOTED AN ELDER WARRIOR AND OTHERS A YOUNGER CLASS OF WARRIOR. THE LONG BLADED ONES ARE OFTEN REFERRED TO AS LION SPEARS. I WOULD THINK THE LONGER DOUBLE EDGED BLADE ON THESE SPEARS WOULD DO MORE DAMMAGE WHEN USED TO IMPAIL A LION WHILE KNEELING BEHIND YOUR SHIELD. THERE MAY BE A LINK TO A FILM SHOWING A MASAI WARRIOR KILLING A LION IN THIS TRADITIONAL WAY. IT IS NO LONGER DONE TO SHOW BRAVERY AND AS A RITE OF PASSAGE INTO MANHOOD.