23rd July 2021, 08:47 AM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 463
|
etching of Balinese keris
Hi folks, if you have no access to warangan or lab grade stuff to etch your keris, what other options will you take? Will using home type of vinegar be suitable?
|
23rd July 2021, 11:08 AM | #2 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 280
|
Hi Anthony, I've used the sulphur and rice water method and have been happy enough with the result: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26696
You will also find extensive discussions on using realgar in this forum. But my several attempts to buy realgar online, from several vendors, has never resulted in any staining whatsoever. |
23rd July 2021, 01:32 PM | #3 |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,113
|
Yes, Jagabuwana's very well presented post on staining with sulphur and rice water is probably the closest alternative i've seen to a good staining with warangan.
I did note that you titled this thread "Staining a Balinese Blade". Jaga is showing his process on an old Bugis blade with a fairly topographical surface. So i'm not sure what sulphur and rice water will do to the smooth, polished surface we find on most Bali keris. |
25th July 2021, 12:24 AM | #4 |
Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,877
|
All the keris that I have used the sulphur & rice water method on were blades that had been previously stained. I do not know, but I feel that what this method does is to reactivate existing traces of arsenic left of the blade from previous applications.
The first keris I tried this method on had a polished surface, similar to a Balinese keris, but it was Malay, not Balinese, the method worked well. |
26th July 2021, 06:04 AM | #5 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 463
|
Thanks all for your valuable advice. I have to figure it out.....
|
26th July 2021, 07:08 PM | #6 | |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 313
|
Quote:
|
|
28th July 2021, 02:33 PM | #7 | |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,113
|
Quote:
|
|
28th July 2021, 04:09 PM | #8 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 463
|
That is why I dare not try becos my bilah is polished smooth and expensive.
|
28th July 2021, 06:29 PM | #9 |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,113
|
|
2nd August 2021, 06:42 AM | #10 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 280
|
It's worth noting that the corrosion that you can see on the blade that I shared was not due to the sulphur treatment.
From my eyeballing, the blade didn't appear to get worse after this treatment, compared to how it was before. Something that I have noticed and has been difficult for me to control is the appearance of brightly rust-looking patches on the blade after a sulphur treatment. It's easy enough to remove with a brush, water and detergent, but this also removes some of the staining. But I can understand why you would be reluctant to do this on a blade that you value, or one that you would otherwise not want to treat in this way. |
3rd August 2021, 03:44 AM | #11 | |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 463
|
Quote:
Thanks for sharing. |
|
|
|