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Won this off ebay recently. I'm aware that it is a Moro Panabas, but I'm clueless about it's origin (tribe) and it's proper use. Do Moro warrior's carry this sword in battle dispited of it's heavy weight?
Here's the link: http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q...4ft%20%20long/ Weapon's dimensions Over all length: 47" Blade: 22" Thickness of blade: 9/16" Width accross: 7" Handle length: 25" Handle Circumference: 7" Weight: 9 1/2 lbs Thanks kindly, panday.2006@yahoo.com Last edited by panday; 16th February 2007 at 03:20 AM. Reason: . |
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![]() Can't help you with the tribal information, but as to its use, given how much larger and heavier it seems to be over the average example I've seen I'd guess it to be an executioner's weapon as opposed to a battlefield or ceremonial piece. |
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i believe this is a pangtuli-tuli panabas. the two distinct panggil by the handle is a dead giveaway...
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What is a pangtuli-tuli panabas and what are the panggil? Ian. |
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Ouch! I don't know about that Spunjer. I've seen a few Pangtuli-tuli Panabas in Mandawe.They were a bit smaller than the dimensions Panday stated. I remember a few Pisot's walking towards the guy with the Panabas.
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Thanks D're..... hugas kamay muna! Last edited by panday; 16th February 2007 at 06:01 AM. Reason: . |
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I was watching this one too, congratulations, looks like a nice piece!
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Kino, according to Cato the Angel of Death Panabas "Malkalmaut" claimed over a thousand heads, now it puzzles me, I wonder how many Pisot's did mine claimed? Man, that's ritual..... Last edited by panday; 16th February 2007 at 11:01 PM. Reason: . |
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Don't drop that on your foot!
![]() Nice panabas. "PanaBeast" Biggest one I ever heard of. |
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the panggil are those two protruding appendage on the blade closest to the handle, while pangtuli-tuli literally means to uncap, or take one's cap off, in iranun dialect..
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There's small iranun sub tribal group called Suppot tribe who were known to be fierce panabas warriors. They chew on medicinal herbs called bayabas before battle to enhance their fighting skills. After each battle, they jump into the ilog (river) as cleansing ritual to wash of the blood from the bagongtuli panabas.
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![]() ![]() pangtuli is a knife used for circumsission. it's a rite of passage to manhood. the bayabas leaves (guava fruit tree) is chewed and spat on the newly cut foreskin and then the boys would run down the river bank and jump into the water to wash off the blood...my dad and my cousins went through this ritual at prepubescent age...i remember my uncles always trying to scare me with such a tool. ![]() i guess it can be used as a weapon. ![]() btw, "supot" is someone with an uncut foreskin...meaning a wrap or a pouch/bag. |
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I'm here in Mindanao right now and was told by an old guy that to use that kind of panabas correctly one needs a byagra.
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SOK, Are we all talking the same language here? There are some words that have different meanings depending on the culture. "Datu" in Moro has quite a different meaning as "Datu" in Batak, and yet another meaning in Tamil. |
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Seems like Jon needs another revisit at the Freudian clinic?
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I'd agree ...
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Now let me see...where did i put that Iranun/English dictionary...
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A panabas like yours needs a strong master, Dodadagohvi and maybe a Lampirong, or kampilan. Not sure which came first.
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Panday, found a picture of the tribe and useage!
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i know a lot of you took this thread with a grain of salt, and i don't blame you; but recently an old "Weapons of Moroland" plaque was sold on eBay with a rather 'peculiar' sword. unfortunately, the example is missing. nevertheless, it's not accurate anyway. please look at the 4th photo down, between the balasiong and lahot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2829&rd=1&rd=1 tho it's not the panabas version, it shows a variation of another rare moro weapon. that is all. |
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I think Ron is talking about this:
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yup, that's the one. always wonder how that one looks like as i've only heard about it..
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