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Old 25th May 2010, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default Aceh sikin with text on sheath (azimat?) translation help needed!

I recently added an Aceh sikin with double golden crowns to my collection.
The wooden sheath which is very nice has an inscription on the backside.
It might be an azimat? Or an islamic text.

So if there is someone out there that can help - please do so!

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Old 25th May 2010, 11:20 PM   #2
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Nice piece. I have a similar one without original scabbard.
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Old 26th May 2010, 01:28 AM   #3
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It might be an azimat? Or an islamic text.

So if there is someone out there that can help - please do so!

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Hi Erik
it's not Arabic language, no way to translate, sorry

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Old 26th May 2010, 02:55 AM   #4
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IT may be jawi, and that would need someone familiar with that language.
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Old 26th May 2010, 07:01 AM   #5
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Hi Dom,

Thanks for looking - much appreciated as always!

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it's not Arabic language, no way to translate, sorry

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Old 26th May 2010, 07:11 AM   #6
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Nice piece. I have a similar one without original scabbard.
I like these Aceh status pieces a lot. Due to a collector who stopped I was able to acquire a few very nice Aceh items for my collection.

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Old 26th May 2010, 08:10 AM   #7
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Gorgeous examples, Erik - congrats!

Dom, the language will be most probably Aceh but the skript is Arabic, isn't it? Any chance to try a transliteration so that we can get some of our Malay members to work on the translation part? I hope Mohd. will chime in here, too...

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Old 26th May 2010, 11:30 AM   #8
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Dom, the language will be most probably Aceh but the skript is Arabic, isn't it?
yes, I confirm that the alphabet is Arabic

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Old 4th June 2010, 12:45 PM   #9
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The words are hard to decipher, but what I can see may read in Malay as "Hamba hak Tengku Jat .....(something)" or in english " I belong to Tengku (Prince) Jat ...."
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Old 8th June 2010, 08:47 PM   #10
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Jentayu, thak you very much for this information - very interesting.
The golden crowns do hint at a person with some status!

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The words are hard to decipher, but what I can see may read in Malay as "Hamba hak Tengku Jat .....(something)" or in english " I belong to Tengku (Prince) Jat ...."
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Old 16th June 2010, 08:46 AM   #11
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Jentayu, could you give another go at the name?
Others of course welcome to contribute info as well.
Hope this picture helps....

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