Arrows

surgi-sharp · 6th March 2022, 02:58 PM

I had workmen doing work on my house. One man saw some of my collection and gave me these.

fernando · 6th March 2022, 04:41 PM

Nice. Looks like good authentic stuff.

fernando · 6th March 2022, 09:09 PM

Here are mine; very very old.

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M ELEY · 7th March 2022, 05:15 AM

Holy crap! Where do you live? I need to move there!

These appear to be authentic Native American arrows pre-1900. The flint heads are secured with senew. The zigzag pattern is a common enough pattern seen on knives,arrows and decorated tomahawks (trade 'hawks, but decorated by the Indians). The feathers also latched properly, the patina looks right. These are really an incredible gift! I had one years ago late-period ca. 1890 with trade cut tin tip, but secured the same way. You got an awesome find there!

colin henshaw · 8th March 2022, 05:14 PM

Very nice arrows, they look old and authentic. Congratulations.

M ELEY · 10th March 2022, 05:13 AM

Forgot to comment on your great collection of prehistoric arrow and spear heads, Fernando! Also very nice! What history they could tell us if they could speak-

fernando · 10th March 2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Forgot to comment on your great collection of prehistoric arrow and spear heads, Fernando! Also very nice! What history they could tell us if they could speak-

Thank you Captain. They would probably tell us they were lost in huntings ... and battles !

surgi-sharp · 10th March 2022, 05:49 PM

In the early 70's with much time and work found this small collection. The area in Texas, not far from my home is now a large industrial center.

David · 10th March 2022, 08:49 PM

Just wonder...does this really belong in the Miscellania forum?

fernando · 11th March 2022, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Just wonder...does this really belong in the Miscellania forum?

Let us say it is sort of optional. But we may well consider that these are 'ethnographic arms and armour artifacts' and move the topic to the Ethno section, where further comments will be welcome.

Edster · 11th March 2022, 05:50 PM

Here's a good source to help in IDing period types/styles found in Tennessee. Styles & periods likely to overlap into other areas as points were widely traded.

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Sear...e_Notched.html

More detailed, but harder to search.

https://www.projectilepoints.net/Sea...al_Search.html

fernando · 13th March 2022, 12:02 PM

Amazing; the similarity between many of them does realy take an expert to figure out the different origins.

Edster · 13th March 2022, 03:18 PM

Fernando,

Absolutely, I'm not convinced that even the experts are sure. Each point was crafted by an individual napper who had a style and I doubt there was a style book shared by someone during the next era. I have several points were collected in a small garden plot near an 1830 log house in E. Tennessee. They have features that could range from 8,000 BC to 1200 AD. Either this area was a major place of significance or points were collected and reused by the place's inhabitants over an unknown time. The place is less than a mile outside the "taking zone" of the Tennessee Valley Authority's reservoir of Norris Dam and has never been surveyed.

Before the reservoir was flooded in 1934, TVA did an archaeological survey of the area, documented ancient and contemporary settlements, collected artifacts and relocated graves. Their process and report (I have a copy) could be the prototype of all the archaeological surveys & preservations now being done prior to public/private construction works virtually worldwide.

Best,
Ed

6th March 2022, 02:58 PM	#1
surgi-sharp Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 11	Arrows I had workmen doing work on my house. One man saw some of my collection and gave me these. Attached Images

6th March 2022, 09:09 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Here are mine; very very old. . Attached Images

10th March 2022, 05:49 PM	#8
surgi-sharp Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 11	In the early 70's with much time and work found this small collection. The area in Texas, not far from my home is now a large industrial center. Attached Images

11th March 2022, 05:50 PM	#11
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 408	Here's a good source to help in IDing period types/styles found in Tennessee. Styles & periods likely to overlap into other areas as points were widely traded. http://www.projectilepoints.net/Sear...e_Notched.html More detailed, but harder to search. https://www.projectilepoints.net/Sea...al_Search.html Last edited by Edster; 11th March 2022 at 06:11 PM. Reason: Added second source.

6th March 2022, 04:41 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Nice. Looks like good authentic stuff.

7th March 2022, 05:15 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,099	Holy crap! Where do you live? I need to move there! These appear to be authentic Native American arrows pre-1900. The flint heads are secured with senew. The zigzag pattern is a common enough pattern seen on knives,arrows and decorated tomahawks (trade 'hawks, but decorated by the Indians). The feathers also latched properly, the patina looks right. These are really an incredible gift! I had one years ago late-period ca. 1890 with trade cut tin tip, but secured the same way. You got an awesome find there!

8th March 2022, 05:14 PM	#5
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Very nice arrows, they look old and authentic. Congratulations.

10th March 2022, 05:13 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,099	Forgot to comment on your great collection of prehistoric arrow and spear heads, Fernando! Also very nice! What history they could tell us if they could speak-

10th March 2022, 08:49 PM	#9
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,126	Just wonder...does this really belong in the Miscellania forum?

13th March 2022, 12:02 PM	#12
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Amazing; the similarity between many of them does realy take an expert to figure out the different origins.

13th March 2022, 03:18 PM	#13
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 408	Fernando, Absolutely, I'm not convinced that even the experts are sure. Each point was crafted by an individual napper who had a style and I doubt there was a style book shared by someone during the next era. I have several points were collected in a small garden plot near an 1830 log house in E. Tennessee. They have features that could range from 8,000 BC to 1200 AD. Either this area was a major place of significance or points were collected and reused by the place's inhabitants over an unknown time. The place is less than a mile outside the "taking zone" of the Tennessee Valley Authority's reservoir of Norris Dam and has never been surveyed. Before the reservoir was flooded in 1934, TVA did an archaeological survey of the area, documented ancient and contemporary settlements, collected artifacts and relocated graves. Their process and report (I have a copy) could be the prototype of all the archaeological surveys & preservations now being done prior to public/private construction works virtually worldwide. Best, Ed