Cossack man - who is it?

Drabant1701 · 9th June 2021, 04:49 PM

I recently bought a photo album with CDV photos. all of them are named and of kings, political figuress military commanders etc. It is however difficult to read things written in days past so Im turning to you for help on this photo of a cossack man. Do you know who it is?

corrado26 · 9th June 2021, 04:58 PM

Schamyl prince and Imam of the Caucasians

Saracen · 9th June 2021, 06:02 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil

After Corrado26's message, you can find the information yourself, but I decided to help you

ariel · 11th June 2021, 02:38 PM

Shamil was never a “prince”, and emphatically not a “ cossack”
He was a leader of nationalistic/religious movement/war against Russian forces trying to subjugate the Caucasus. Under his leadership Islamic Caucasian nations fought Russian army ( including Cossacks).
His name is a Koranic Arabic modification of the Biblical prophet Samuel, in Hebrew: Shmuel, “ Hear G-d”.

If you are interested in the history of that 100-yeas-long war that never ended till today , get a book by Leslie Blanch “ The sabres of paradise”. Historically accurate, comprehensive and reads like Tom Clancy.

Jim McDougall · 12th June 2021, 10:33 PM

As noted, Shamil was the leader of the Sufi Naqshbandi order in their resistance to invading Russian forces in what were often termed 'The Murid Wars' (Murid was the term for disciples in this movement 1829-59).
These campaigns in the eastern Caucusus were part of the larger conflicts there which lasted 1817-64, but Shamil surrendered in 1859.

The book "Sabers of Paradise" is spellbinding! and one of the best accounts describing these complex and colorful times and these warriors, of which Shamil seems almost superhuman!

Saracen · 14th June 2021, 02:04 AM

Thank you, Ariel and Jim, for recommending this book. I didn't know about her.
You characterized her so vividly, for me now it is an instruction to read)

gp · 14th June 2022, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

If you are interested in the history of that 100-yeas-long war that never ended till today , get a book by Leslie Blanch “ The sabres of paradise”. Historically accurate, comprehensive and reads like Tom Clancy.

a little side track but perhaps interesting for some of you who might be interested in reading SF / Fantasy or its movies...
the mentioned booked has influenced Frank Herbert's book "Dune":

https://arnoldkhan.medium.com/how-th...e-f2b892c4869e

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Shamil was never a “prince”, and emphatically not a “ cossack” He was a leader of nationalistic/religious movement/war against Russian forces trying to subjugate the Caucasus. Under his leadership Islamic Caucasian nations fought Russian army ( including Cossacks). His name is a Koranic Arabic modification of the Biblical prophet Samuel, in Hebrew: Shmuel, “ Hear G-d”. If you are interested in the history of that 100-yeas-long war that never ended till today , get a book by Leslie Blanch “ The sabres of paradise”. Historically accurate, comprehensive and reads like Tom Clancy. Last edited by ariel; 11th June 2021 at 03:48 PM.

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Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,951	As noted, Shamil was the leader of the Sufi Naqshbandi order in their resistance to invading Russian forces in what were often termed 'The Murid Wars' (Murid was the term for disciples in this movement 1829-59). These campaigns in the eastern Caucusus were part of the larger conflicts there which lasted 1817-64, but Shamil surrendered in 1859. The book "Sabers of Paradise" is spellbinding! and one of the best accounts describing these complex and colorful times and these warriors, of which Shamil seems almost superhuman! Attached Images Last edited by Jim McDougall; 13th June 2021 at 01:52 AM.

9th June 2021, 04:58 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,206	Schamyl prince and Imam of the Caucasians

9th June 2021, 06:02 PM	#3
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil After Corrado26's message, you can find the information yourself, but I decided to help you

14th June 2021, 02:04 AM	#6
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Thank you, Ariel and Jim, for recommending this book. I didn't know about her. You characterized her so vividly, for me now it is an instruction to read)