Club ... help needed !

thinreadline · 27th August 2021, 05:22 PM

Hello , a friend has sent these pictures of a wooden club like artefact . It is approx 65 cm long . It has a somewhat oriental looking head at the top , spiralling down from the back of the head is a snake . I wonder if anyone can help with the likely ethnic origin of this piece please ?

Tim Simmons · 28th August 2021, 08:47 AM

Very unusual. I don't think it is African for sure. Possibly from India? Has it been painted oŕ stained. The pictures might tell more in daylight without the shine or is that how it is?

thinreadline · 28th August 2021, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Very unusual. I don't think it is African for sure. Possibly from India? Has it been painted oŕ stained. The pictures might tell more in daylight without the shine or is that how it is?

It seems to have a naturally shiny patina , dont think its stained , certainly not painted .

Tim Simmons · 28th August 2021, 11:12 AM

If I say Eurasian dones not really help. Possibly European . One thing is the ears definitely not African.

Tim Simmons · 28th August 2021, 06:50 PM

Without daylight pics it looks lacquered in some way.

mross · 28th August 2021, 07:51 PM

Looks kinda touristy to me, does not give the appearance of age. But it's just a feel no facts to support it.

kronckew · 29th August 2021, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

If I say Eurasian dones not really help. Possibly European . One thing is the ears definitely not African.

Has a certain Asian look to the head: Could the 'snake' be a braided queue?

Battara · 30th August 2021, 03:25 AM

It's an actual snake head on top - kind of looks like a Chinese Filipino to me (Chinese presence in the PI for 1000 years).

Ian · 30th August 2021, 06:49 AM

I agree with Battara and Wayne. Looks Asian to me also. Possibly SE Asian, including mainland SE Asia, with a strong Chinese influence. The snake could be a python.

thinreadline · 31st August 2021, 02:49 PM

thanks everyone for your input , its much appreciated.

27th August 2021, 05:22 PM	#1
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	Club ... help needed ! Hello , a friend has sent these pictures of a wooden club like artefact . It is approx 65 cm long . It has a somewhat oriental looking head at the top , spiralling down from the back of the head is a snake . I wonder if anyone can help with the likely ethnic origin of this piece please ? Attached Images

28th August 2021, 08:47 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Very unusual. I don't think it is African for sure. Possibly from India? Has it been painted oŕ stained. The pictures might tell more in daylight without the shine or is that how it is?

28th August 2021, 11:12 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	If I say Eurasian dones not really help. Possibly European . One thing is the ears definitely not African.

28th August 2021, 06:50 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Without daylight pics it looks lacquered in some way.

28th August 2021, 07:51 PM	#6
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Looks kinda touristy to me, does not give the appearance of age. But it's just a feel no facts to support it.

30th August 2021, 03:25 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,217	It's an actual snake head on top - kind of looks like a Chinese Filipino to me (Chinese presence in the PI for 1000 years).

30th August 2021, 06:49 AM	#9
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,194	I agree with Battara and Wayne. Looks Asian to me also. Possibly SE Asian, including mainland SE Asia, with a strong Chinese influence. The snake could be a python.

31st August 2021, 02:49 PM	#10
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	thanks everyone for your input , its much appreciated.