Indo-Afghani Weapons?

[The Double D]

Can anyone identify the source of this display of weapons?

Can any one identify the weapons?

[The Double D]

Doesn't anyone know what these knives and swords are?

[spiral]

I thought the original questian was to find the source of the display.

The source of each weapons is easier , Although its many & varied & includes, Yemen, Afghanistan, England, Nepal , Sudan & I am sure other middle eastern to eastern countries as well.

Spiral

[Mart]

I see
Bayonet - knife Remington 1913 with scabbard
Turkoman kard

[Berkley]

Taking this in the spirit of a television game show question, I'll try my hand at a rough answer.

Can anyone identify the source of this display of weapons?

Although I haven't been able to locate this exact illustration, it is strongly reminiscent of the "collection of Oriental armour and weapons formed by Lord Egerton of Tatton, and now hung in the armoury, Tatton Park", Egerton, p.160 et seq.. Of course, it could as easily be from any number of Victorian-era collections. Where did you find the illustration?

Can any one identify the weapons?

Generically, from top left to bottom right, with apologies in advance to the experts for mis-identifications and incorrect terminology:

• [Probably Indian] dhal shield and powder flask;
• shamsher;
• [probably Afghan] powder flask and matchlock jezail;
• Afghan salwar yataghan (Khyber knife);
• British 1871 Martini-Henry rifle, Mk 3 bayonet with scabbard, and what appears to be a misfired cartrdge with identifying label attached;
• Sudanese arm dagger;
• yataghan;
• kard;
• early type of Nepalese kukri;
• jambiya.

Do I win the convertible?

[inveterate]

Berk, I dont know if you win the convertable but you certainly get to play again next week! Rod

[The Double D]

Actually I didn't intend it to be a contest, but if it works...

When I posted the picture I though it was a display from some museum.

I now know that it a studio picture take from a 1970's era issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. I still don't know what prompted the picture.

I was hoping to learn what the swords and knives where as a learning process. My limited knowledge of these tells me that they are swords and knives from the Indo-Arab part of the world. Thanks for their names.

The only ones I do know are the Martini and its bayonet. Martini Henry MK IV, Pattern C and Pattern 1887 Sword Bayonet Mk III. 10 round packet of rolled foil case 577/450 Martini Henry ammo most likely Mk III since all earliery Mk's were to be broken up.

The rifle although not exclusivley used in India, it is where the majority of them were sent for use by colonial troops.

My education continues. Thanks guys.

[Valjhun]

The yataghan is a montenegro/bosnia piece. Probably made in sarajevo between 1840-1870.

[The Double D]

I finally go the article in which the picutres of the knives were included. The article titled "The Rifle that built an Empire" appeared in the February 1979 Guns and Ammo Magazine. Here is the description as they gave it from upper left ot lower right.

1. Rhino hide shield from Khyber Pass. 2. Indian powder flask. 3. Persian sabre with Damascus blade. 4. African leather powder flask. 5. Matchlock gun from Northern India. 6. Afghan knife. 7. Martini Mark IV with Wilkinson sword bayonet. 8. Original packet of ,577/450 ammo. 9. Sudanese arm dagger. 10. Turkish yataghan with drop point and walrus ivory hilt. 11. Persian kard, a type of armor piercing dagger. 12. Kukri, national weapon of the Ghurkas, 13. Jambiya, the wicked Arab curved knife.

The Article is about the Martini Henry rifle and it's use in the Victorian Colonial wars. The rifle depicted, the MK IV is a bit late for those wars and fore the most part was issued to colonial troops as first line troops got the Lee Enfield.

Since they weren't very accurate withe rifle how did they do with the knives and swords?

Are these Victorian era knives and swords from the old British empire?

[Lew]

To be exact the jambiya is a Gusbi Jambiya Dagger from Hadramout in Yemen.


Lew