Keris Bugis - Udan Mas

Hartadi · 28th December 2009, 05:38 AM

Dear Antiques Keris Fellows,

Introducing a new comer in this forum to share one of my Lovely collection. your comment would very appreciate.

Greeting from Lombok,
Hartadi

asomotif · 28th December 2009, 08:59 PM

Hello Hartadi,

Welcome

Very nice keris with nice patina.
Please keep it away from your local silversmiths, before you know it they will dress it up in silver

Best regards,
Willem

David · 28th December 2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Please keep it away from your local silversmiths, before you know it they will dress it up in silver

Hartadi · 28th December 2009, 10:06 PM

Hello Willem and David, thanks.. Don't worry... I'll keep as it is now, love it very much without recent dress..

buttom toe is the Only awkward since it was refurb by our local repairmen.

Hartadi · 28th December 2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Hartadi,

Welcome

Very nice keris with nice patina.
Please keep it away from your local silversmiths, before you know it they will dress it up in silver

Best regards,
Willem

Wish I can fix the cracked on neck below the sheath

asomotif · 29th December 2009, 07:12 AM

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Wish I can fix the cracked on neck below the sheath

Is it loose, or just a crack ?
I assume we have some forumites who have experience with this kind of repairs.

Although, when it is not loose, I would just leave it as it is.

Hartadi · 29th December 2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Is it loose, or just a crack ?
.

it was cracked i think.. in spite of still no need silversmith work on that..

brekele · 29th December 2009, 10:50 AM

Welcome to the forum Mas Hartadi.

It's many keris with pamor udan mas in javanese keris , but yours... Bugis keris with pamor udan mas? hhhmm...really nice and very rare.
Just wondering when you get bored with this one...

Hartadi · 29th December 2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by brekele

as? ...really nice and very rare.
Just wondering when you get bored with this one...

Hello Mas Bre.. Thanks for compliments, I don't think will get bored with this Keris for the next ten years..he..he..

BluErf · 29th December 2009, 02:28 PM

Dear Hartadi,

From the pictures, I think the crack had been repaired before. Very often kemuning will warp and crack such that some parts of the wood will bend away from the main body.

I've not seen how the repair is actually done, but I believe the wood may be bent back towards the original position and wood-glued back in place. This may possibly involve partial breaking of the wood to push it back into place. I have a keris sheath which was like that (when I 1st possessed it) and then had it repaired. A give away is the lighter tone on the wood, which is the result of sanding to smoothen the area which was fixed.

I think it is a good repair, and is best left as if.

Hartadi · 29th December 2009, 02:57 PM

Hi Toh, agreed...! Thanks.

I'll probably leave the crack as it is now. Re-joint the crack will encourage me to do rasp that resulting different colour of kemuning with an antiques color. I know there's a chemical we can use for re-color the wood, but avoid to do so.

Rick · 29th December 2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartadi

Wish I can fix the cracked on neck below the sheath

My first Bugis which I purchased on epray a decade ago had just such a crack .
Of course the idiot that sold it to me shipped it in a soft envelope .

Mine wiggled a bit but not much .
Solved the problem by forcing 5 minute epoxy glue into the crack and holding it tight by hand .
Clean up before it sets hard .

asomotif · 29th December 2009, 06:55 PM

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forcing 5 minute epoxy glue into the crack and holding it tight by hand .

and beware of glueing your hand to the keris

It is a good way for keeping your keris close at hand, but people start to stare in public places. and traveling by plane gets impossible

Rick · 29th December 2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

and beware of glueing your hand to the keris

It is a good way for keeping your keris close at hand, but people start to stare in public places. and traveling by plane gets impossible

What !?!!
There is no wax paper in the Netherlands !?!!

Shocking ........

Hartadi · 29th December 2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Solved the problem by forcing 5 minute epoxy glue into the crack and holding it tight by hand .
Clean up before it sets hard .

Dear Rick, could be the person who did repaired on my keris was not tight enough while sticked the crack. That way appearing the crack with a gap on it

Rick · 29th December 2009, 08:31 PM

An old repair is a different story indeed .

No quick fix there .

sipakatuo · 3rd January 2010, 11:13 AM

Very nice keris Pak Hartadi and agree withe Bre, a rare one in your hand.
Happy new year to you and to all vikingsword's members. Best of wishes from me.

Hartadi · 3rd January 2010, 01:40 PM

Hello Sipakatuo.. Thanks for comment, so lucky to owned this keris..

28th December 2009, 05:38 AM	#1
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	Keris Bugis - Udan Mas Dear Antiques Keris Fellows, Introducing a new comer in this forum to share one of my Lovely collection. your comment would very appreciate. Greeting from Lombok, Hartadi Attached Images

28th December 2009, 08:59 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Hello Hartadi, Welcome Very nice keris with nice patina. Please keep it away from your local silversmiths, before you know it they will dress it up in silver Best regards, Willem

28th December 2009, 10:06 PM	#4
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	Hello Willem and David, thanks.. Don't worry... I'll keep as it is now, love it very much without recent dress.. buttom toe is the Only awkward since it was refurb by our local repairmen.

29th December 2009, 10:50 AM	#8
brekele Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 208	Welcome to the forum Mas Hartadi. It's many keris with pamor udan mas in javanese keris , but yours... Bugis keris with pamor udan mas? hhhmm...really nice and very rare. Just wondering when you get bored with this one...

29th December 2009, 02:28 PM	#10
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Dear Hartadi, From the pictures, I think the crack had been repaired before. Very often kemuning will warp and crack such that some parts of the wood will bend away from the main body. I've not seen how the repair is actually done, but I believe the wood may be bent back towards the original position and wood-glued back in place. This may possibly involve partial breaking of the wood to push it back into place. I have a keris sheath which was like that (when I 1st possessed it) and then had it repaired. A give away is the lighter tone on the wood, which is the result of sanding to smoothen the area which was fixed. I think it is a good repair, and is best left as if.

29th December 2009, 02:57 PM	#11
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	Hi Toh, agreed...! Thanks. I'll probably leave the crack as it is now. Re-joint the crack will encourage me to do rasp that resulting different colour of kemuning with an antiques color. I know there's a chemical we can use for re-color the wood, but avoid to do so.

29th December 2009, 08:31 PM	#16
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	An old repair is a different story indeed . No quick fix there .

3rd January 2010, 11:13 AM	#17
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Very nice keris Pak Hartadi and agree withe Bre, a rare one in your hand. Happy new year to you and to all vikingsword's members. Best of wishes from me.

3rd January 2010, 01:40 PM	#18
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	Hello Sipakatuo.. Thanks for comment, so lucky to owned this keris..