Please Help Me to Identify this Helmet.

Antique Arsenal · 11th May 2011, 04:13 PM

I was hoping that somebody could help me with identifying this helmet. I have been told that that it originates from 19th century China or Tibet. It might be correct but I think that Korea and some other Asian countries had similar helmet designs.
Tell you the truth I have my doubts about this helmet since I am aware of amount of fakes and reproductions produced in China.
I am not a specialist in Asian arms and armour and I would appreciate any help and comments about it.

Gavin Nugent · 11th May 2011, 04:49 PM

Hi,

The Helm you have shown is a very new example made in China. They have been seen in great numbers on Ebay and I am pretty sure there have been some good discussions about this type and other better ages reproductions within these pages.

Gavin

Antique Arsenal · 11th May 2011, 07:47 PM

Thank you Gavin. I will try to find this discussion. I appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Aleks

Jim McDougall · 12th May 2011, 12:13 AM

Well noted by Gav, these are as suggested probably one form of numbers of stylized items with composite traditional elements being produced commercially in China. For me the first clue is the vajra atop the helmet. These are for symbolic ritual weapons or objects most associated with Tibet, but also found in degree elsewhere in Tantric context.

Jim

koto · 14th May 2011, 04:07 PM

Chinese fake antique Tibeten helmet.
The patina is artificial.

11th May 2011, 04:13 PM	#1
Antique Arsenal Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 35	Please Help Me to Identify this Helmet. I was hoping that somebody could help me with identifying this helmet. I have been told that that it originates from 19th century China or Tibet. It might be correct but I think that Korea and some other Asian countries had similar helmet designs. Tell you the truth I have my doubts about this helmet since I am aware of amount of fakes and reproductions produced in China. I am not a specialist in Asian arms and armour and I would appreciate any help and comments about it. Attached Images

11th May 2011, 04:49 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	New Helmet Hi, The Helm you have shown is a very new example made in China. They have been seen in great numbers on Ebay and I am pretty sure there have been some good discussions about this type and other better ages reproductions within these pages. Gavin

12th May 2011, 12:13 AM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,951	Well noted by Gav, these are as suggested probably one form of numbers of stylized items with composite traditional elements being produced commercially in China. For me the first clue is the vajra atop the helmet. These are for symbolic ritual weapons or objects most associated with Tibet, but also found in degree elsewhere in Tantric context. Jim Attached Images

11th May 2011, 07:47 PM	#3
Antique Arsenal Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 35	Thank you Gavin. I will try to find this discussion. I appreciate your help. Thanks, Aleks

14th May 2011, 04:07 PM	#5
koto Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 27	Chinese fake antique Tibeten helmet. The patina is artificial.