Ideas on this blade

simatua · 30th April 2006, 08:45 AM

I bought just this blade on a market. I Dont know its origine.
Its abbout 60 cm long. Got no stamps or markings. Forged, but no mixed material (pamor)
...any idea ??

Tim Simmons · 30th April 2006, 08:57 AM

I do not know much about these things, could it be sword bayonet that has lost the handle. The tang is rather short? made that way for the rifle fitting?

tom hyle · 30th April 2006, 10:09 PM

Looks like an old European falchion/messer, probably c19, likely military. So jealous; so very very jealous. Things to expect/look for A/spring temper (expect) B/ folded steel (look for). Gotta go!

Lew · 30th April 2006, 10:20 PM

Looks Indonesian to me. Maybe some form of large golok or parang?

Lew

Jim McDougall · 1st May 2006, 01:21 AM

Hey Tom, good to see ya posting! Thought the UFO's got ya!!

All best,
Jim

simatua · 1st May 2006, 05:31 PM

thanks all for your meaning guys,

I 'll stick to Lew, cause i am a collector of indonesian edged weapons.
whether its right or not.

Whasn't it the old Romans who said: The world wants to be fooled,....
so let it be fooled !
I will look for a suitible Indonesian handle and pretend it comes from there.

gr
Martin

tom hyle · 7th May 2006, 12:36 AM

If Indonesian it is a conscious copy of an European blade. It is rather of the style of the "Dutch klewangs" which are, however, a nothing-distinct European hanger/messer. FYI A spring temper would be an extremely strong indicator of European origin.
They were unidentified; they were objects; I don't think they were flying

fearn · 7th May 2006, 03:15 AM

'round here, aren't UFOs Unidentified Forged Objects?

Jim McDougall · 8th May 2006, 04:05 AM

Good one Fearn!!!

Battara · 9th May 2006, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

'round here, aren't UFOs Unidentified Forged Objects?

Do they come from the "House of Flying Daggers?"

30th April 2006, 08:45 AM	#1
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	Ideas on this blade I bought just this blade on a market. I Dont know its origine. Its abbout 60 cm long. Got no stamps or markings. Forged, but no mixed material (pamor) ...any idea ?? Attached Images

1st May 2006, 05:31 PM	#6
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	thnks thanks all for your meaning guys, I 'll stick to Lew, cause i am a collector of indonesian edged weapons. whether its right or not. Whasn't it the old Romans who said: The world wants to be fooled,.... so let it be fooled ! I will look for a suitible Indonesian handle and pretend it comes from there. gr Martin

30th April 2006, 08:57 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,750	I do not know much about these things, could it be sword bayonet that has lost the handle. The tang is rather short? made that way for the rifle fitting?

30th April 2006, 10:09 PM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Looks like an old European falchion/messer, probably c19, likely military. So jealous; so very very jealous. Things to expect/look for A/spring temper (expect) B/ folded steel (look for). Gotta go!

30th April 2006, 10:20 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Looks Indonesian to me. Maybe some form of large golok or parang? Lew

1st May 2006, 01:21 AM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,815	Hey Tom, good to see ya posting! Thought the UFO's got ya!! All best, Jim

7th May 2006, 12:36 AM	#7
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	If Indonesian it is a conscious copy of an European blade. It is rather of the style of the "Dutch klewangs" which are, however, a nothing-distinct European hanger/messer. FYI A spring temper would be an extremely strong indicator of European origin. They were unidentified; they were objects; I don't think they were flying

7th May 2006, 03:15 AM	#8
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	'round here, aren't UFOs Unidentified Forged Objects?

8th May 2006, 04:05 AM	#9
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,815	Good one Fearn!!!