Zweihander identification

dayton56 · 28th October 2015, 10:28 PM

Is it possible to identify the swordmaker for this zweihander sword? There appears to be a similar mark on both parry hooks , but I can't find any online references to such a mark. Any assistance appreciated.

cornelistromp · 30th October 2015, 08:44 PM

the sword is around 1580 for similar blade types please see
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=handed

almost all the blades of this type have a running wolf engraved at both sides, can you check if this the case with your sword.

16th century swords marks are almost never traceable to the sword maker, a few famous sword makers, as standler e.o. aside.

can you post pictures of the guard finals and pommel?

best regards

dayton56 · 1st November 2015, 03:14 PM

does this help?

dayton56 · 1st November 2015, 03:32 PM

Still struggling with resizing attachments.

cornelistromp · 3rd November 2015, 06:40 PM

it seems a transition model around 1580, this type of blade was used on two hand swords between 1550 and 1575, the pommel and guard are of a later date 1580-1600.
the abrubtly stopping quillon finals are very unusual, you'd also expect (3 )curls here.
maybe the guard is a bit altered and shortened in the 16thC.

it's a beautiful unharmed original sword, congrats!

best,

ulfberth · 5th November 2015, 12:10 PM

I agree with Jasper,

The missing curls on the quillions is very unusual and this could indeed be a later transformation or even a variation on this type of guard. All the decoration on the quillions and pommel is in the traditional fashion and fits the time line of the sword.
This sword has indeed all characteristics of an original late 16th great sword, and they are not deliberately enhanced to make it look that way !
The maker will for now remain unknown but congratulations with this original two handed sword !

Kind regards

Ulfberth

dayton56 · 6th November 2015, 01:56 AM

Thanks so much for your assistance... I also inherited a slightly damaged polearm that might be contemporary with the sword. Is there a different forum that enjoys looking at such a weapon or do you have interest in seeing it?

28th October 2015, 10:28 PM	#1
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	Zweihander identification Is it possible to identify the swordmaker for this zweihander sword? There appears to be a similar mark on both parry hooks , but I can't find any online references to such a mark. Any assistance appreciated. Attached Images

1st November 2015, 03:14 PM	#3
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	More zweihander photos does this help?

1st November 2015, 03:32 PM	#4
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	guess it would help to attach photos! Still struggling with resizing attachments. Attached Images

6th November 2015, 01:56 AM	#7
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	Zweihander Thanks so much for your assistance... I also inherited a slightly damaged polearm that might be contemporary with the sword. Is there a different forum that enjoys looking at such a weapon or do you have interest in seeing it?

30th October 2015, 08:44 PM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	the sword is around 1580 for similar blade types please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=handed almost all the blades of this type have a running wolf engraved at both sides, can you check if this the case with your sword. 16th century swords marks are almost never traceable to the sword maker, a few famous sword makers, as standler e.o. aside. can you post pictures of the guard finals and pommel? best regards

3rd November 2015, 06:40 PM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	it seems a transition model around 1580, this type of blade was used on two hand swords between 1550 and 1575, the pommel and guard are of a later date 1580-1600. the abrubtly stopping quillon finals are very unusual, you'd also expect (3 )curls here. maybe the guard is a bit altered and shortened in the 16thC. it's a beautiful unharmed original sword, congrats! best,

5th November 2015, 12:10 PM	#6
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 400	I agree with Jasper, The missing curls on the quillions is very unusual and this could indeed be a later transformation or even a variation on this type of guard. All the decoration on the quillions and pommel is in the traditional fashion and fits the time line of the sword. This sword has indeed all characteristics of an original late 16th great sword, and they are not deliberately enhanced to make it look that way ! The maker will for now remain unknown but congratulations with this original two handed sword ! Kind regards Ulfberth