jambiya

galvano · 6th March 2009, 06:40 PM

my new jambiya. qajar period
18 eme or 19 eme ? you opinion

ALEX · 6th March 2009, 06:53 PM

It's easy, Galvano, as it could be only one opinion - Very Nice:-)
Nice walrus hilt of above average quality. The blade appears to be wootz.
You're right - Persian/Qajar, 19th Cent. Very elegant jambiya. Would benefit from light blade cleaning and etching as it appears to have small amounts of rust, but do NOT clean the hilt.

galvano · 6th March 2009, 08:06 PM

soon at home - )

Dom · 6th March 2009, 08:30 PM

WHhhooaaaa !!

too beauty

completly agree with Alex comments, nothing to add

à +

Dom

ariel · 6th March 2009, 11:09 PM

Khorasani published several of them in his book; most taken from Artzi and Avner's collection and attributed to Dr. David Darom ( why?).
They are bizarre, to my mind, with their "domestic bliss" motive or occasional frank pornography. Can't imagine them used as weapons

galvano · 9th March 2009, 08:04 PM

news photos

ALEX · 10th March 2009, 12:43 AM

Very nice pictures! The decoration motif on the scabbard fittings does not look Persian, it looks more like Ottoman/Turkish work to me, 19th Century in my opinion. Makes it even more interesting:-) The tip is obviously missing and was shortened as a repair(?). Very nice court/ceremonial dagger indeed. Agree with Ariel - too beautiful for combat purposes:-)

ariel · 10th March 2009, 05:49 AM

No, not Ottoman. They had better taste

The one from Artzi's collection ( subsequently published by Khorasani) shows couples engaging in sexual intercourse in different positions and another naked woman watching them and an inscription " You stabbed me hard 1000 times, but I would not die unless you stab me with this blade" ( I changed the Khorasani's translation a bit to make it readable).
Khorasani then explained that it was likely a gift to a man from his loving wife and the depiction of another woman was just to excite his sexual fantasy.
Ottomans used ornaments of carnations and tulips.

Gt Obach · 10th March 2009, 07:17 PM

excellent dagger !!

you have a beauty there... i'd bet there is some very nice patterning fulad on that blade.... ofcourse it is functional.. and a nice slicer !
- it should easily etch a nice dark Persian pattern ... with ivory handle.. oh that is fantastic

i'm not sure the case goes with it...

there is no denying its a beaut

galvano · 14th March 2009, 02:51 PM

your opinion? any polishing

galvano · 14th March 2009, 06:18 PM

please
what is the form for the point of the scabbard ?
thanks

Dom · 20th March 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

shows naked woman watching them .

not from Artzi's collection, but from "Hermann-Historica"

Adam has a strong effect to watch Eva naked ...
where is that Islam

times blessed by God

(unable to translate the 2 cartouches, coze .. farsi, not arabic)

à +

Dom

galvano · 21st March 2009, 03:20 PM

please your opinion.
thanks

Gt Obach · 21st March 2009, 08:05 PM

its shines like a pearl

very lucky to own it

galvano · 21st March 2009, 09:38 PM

yes greg
I like wootz but this one is very beautiful.
I want to have only wootz in my collection!!!!!

6th March 2009, 06:40 PM	#1
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	jambiya my new jambiya. qajar period 18 eme or 19 eme ? you opinion Attached Images

6th March 2009, 08:06 PM	#3
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	. soon at home - )

9th March 2009, 08:04 PM	#6
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	now at home news photos Attached Images

14th March 2009, 02:51 PM	#10
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	after first cleaning your opinion? any polishing Attached Images Last edited by galvano; 14th March 2009 at 03:12 PM.

14th March 2009, 06:18 PM	#11
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	hi please what is the form for the point of the scabbard ? thanks

6th March 2009, 06:53 PM	#2
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	It's easy, Galvano, as it could be only one opinion - Very Nice:-) Nice walrus hilt of above average quality. The blade appears to be wootz. You're right - Persian/Qajar, 19th Cent. Very elegant jambiya. Would benefit from light blade cleaning and etching as it appears to have small amounts of rust, but do NOT clean the hilt.

6th March 2009, 08:30 PM	#4
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	WHhhooaaaa !! too beauty completly agree with Alex comments, nothing to add à + Dom

6th March 2009, 11:09 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Khorasani published several of them in his book; most taken from Artzi and Avner's collection and attributed to Dr. David Darom ( why?). They are bizarre, to my mind, with their "domestic bliss" motive or occasional frank pornography. Can't imagine them used as weapons

10th March 2009, 12:43 AM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Very nice pictures! The decoration motif on the scabbard fittings does not look Persian, it looks more like Ottoman/Turkish work to me, 19th Century in my opinion. Makes it even more interesting:-) The tip is obviously missing and was shortened as a repair(?). Very nice court/ceremonial dagger indeed. Agree with Ariel - too beautiful for combat purposes:-)

10th March 2009, 05:49 AM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	No, not Ottoman. They had better taste The one from Artzi's collection ( subsequently published by Khorasani) shows couples engaging in sexual intercourse in different positions and another naked woman watching them and an inscription " You stabbed me hard 1000 times, but I would not die unless you stab me with this blade" ( I changed the Khorasani's translation a bit to make it readable). Khorasani then explained that it was likely a gift to a man from his loving wife and the depiction of another woman was just to excite his sexual fantasy. Ottomans used ornaments of carnations and tulips.

10th March 2009, 07:17 PM	#9
Gt Obach Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 116	excellent dagger !! you have a beauty there... i'd bet there is some very nice patterning fulad on that blade.... ofcourse it is functional.. and a nice slicer ! - it should easily etch a nice dark Persian pattern ... with ivory handle.. oh that is fantastic i'm not sure the case goes with it... there is no denying its a beaut

21st March 2009, 03:20 PM	#13
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	fulad test please your opinion. thanks Attached Images

21st March 2009, 08:05 PM	#14
Gt Obach Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 116	its shines like a pearl very lucky to own it

21st March 2009, 09:38 PM	#15
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	wootz wootz wootz yes greg I like wootz but this one is very beautiful. I want to have only wootz in my collection!!!!!