WOW indian tulwar

Valjhun · 10th January 2006, 05:32 PM

What do you think about the ebay item number 6593728975? Verry impressionating, but real? I personally have my doubts, but I never saw a modern one in such quality...

Andrew · 10th January 2006, 07:19 PM

It's a newly made sword. Very pretty.

Tim Simmons · 10th January 2006, 08:23 PM

It was so good that no one bid for it.

Radu Transylvanicus · 11th January 2006, 10:38 AM

Good or bad, old or new, this Rajput saber is impressive ... Expensive too but not a bad toy, looks pretty solid and it has all the fascinating talwar elements with perhaps the lack of paraj (the knuckle guard). I can even smell the spicy wood aroma of that wood behind the red velvet. And that wootz alone ... hmmm ... worth more than all the gold of the koftigiri to me....
What I like the most about it, I guess, is the fact that is so darn pure and Hindustani, like an ethnic landmark... Next Christmas, if any big, jolly red thing comes to me it better be a sword like that

Yannis · 11th January 2006, 12:49 PM

Radu
This is not wootz, it is a modern damascus that is pretty but not hold sharp edge. I have seen these pieces all around, they dont worth anything more than decoration items.

Radu Transylvanicus · 11th January 2006, 07:00 PM

How is the "modern Damascus" made anyway ? Hand or machine ?

Andrew · 11th January 2006, 07:46 PM

Radu, I believe this is machine pattern-welded. There may be a human element to the production process but I think we're looking at mechanical hammer, at least. I would guess the billets are produced by machine and the blades formed by stock removal. I'm uncertain what, if any, heat-treat these recieve.

A couple years ago, there was a company called "Shah Jahans" that was selling very similar swords and knives with this "birds-eye" pattern on eBay, and some very similar blade blanks will appear on the market from time to time. I believe some members here have had a fair amount of experience with that company's products and can comment. Personally, I've handled a few knife-sized examples with rebated edges.

As I said above, I think these are pretty things.

10th January 2006, 05:32 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	WOW indian tulwar What do you think about the ebay item number 6593728975? Verry impressionating, but real? I personally have my doubts, but I never saw a modern one in such quality... Attached Images Last edited by Andrew; 11th January 2006 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Adding auction photos for reference. Photos property of Scopetica.com.

11th January 2006, 10:38 AM	#4
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	Good or bad, old or new, this Rajput saber is impressive ... Expensive too but not a bad toy, looks pretty solid and it has all the fascinating talwar elements with perhaps the lack of paraj (the knuckle guard). I can even smell the spicy wood aroma of that wood behind the red velvet. And that wootz alone ... hmmm ... worth more than all the gold of the koftigiri to me.... What I like the most about it, I guess, is the fact that is so darn pure and Hindustani, like an ethnic landmark... Next Christmas, if any big, jolly red thing comes to me it better be a sword like that Last edited by Radu Transylvanicus; 11th January 2006 at 10:53 AM.

10th January 2006, 07:19 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	It's a newly made sword. Very pretty.

10th January 2006, 08:23 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	It was so good that no one bid for it.

11th January 2006, 12:49 PM	#5
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Radu This is not wootz, it is a modern damascus that is pretty but not hold sharp edge. I have seen these pieces all around, they dont worth anything more than decoration items.

11th January 2006, 07:00 PM	#6
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	How is the "modern Damascus" made anyway ? Hand or machine ?

11th January 2006, 07:46 PM	#7
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Radu, I believe this is machine pattern-welded. There may be a human element to the production process but I think we're looking at mechanical hammer, at least. I would guess the billets are produced by machine and the blades formed by stock removal. I'm uncertain what, if any, heat-treat these recieve. A couple years ago, there was a company called "Shah Jahans" that was selling very similar swords and knives with this "birds-eye" pattern on eBay, and some very similar blade blanks will appear on the market from time to time. I believe some members here have had a fair amount of experience with that company's products and can comment. Personally, I've handled a few knife-sized examples with rebated edges. As I said above, I think these are pretty things.