shamshir iscription translate please

[BerberDagger]

Hi,
who is able to translate or tell me what is signify of this iscription on shamshir's guard...?

thanks

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

Hi,
who is able to translate or tell me what is signify of this iscription on shamshir's guard...?

thanks

Conquest and Victory comes from God

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Thanks Dom,
Can you translate olso this? thanks you very much .

BerberDagger

[Dom]

as you know .. may be ?
but God has according with Muslims ninety nine terms, as well as;
Great, Faithful, Beauty, Generous, Merciful, and so

on the pic, possible to read two of these terms;
- Al Rafa'a (the Hight)
- Al Rahman (the Clement)

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Thanks Dom,
I Would ask, this terms are usually from Muslim, but is possible to known where they are printed on sword? Arabia,Persia etc?
This sword is a shanka style saif. I send other complete photo early...

thanks
BerberDagger

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

but is possible to known where they are printed on sword? Arabia,Persia etc?

the inlaid was practiced every where,
for the countries using arabic alphabet the religion is often the subject,
indeed none speaking arabic, as well as; Turkey, Persia (Iran), Pakistan, even India, Spain (Moorish) and may be China

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

China?

thanks Dom, on the blade there is olso this stamps but i dont able to translate it....

regards
BerberDagger

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

China?

not china, but steel .... ... just a joke

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

there is olso this stamps but i dont able to translate it....

amal 3 sha 3 fi
amal shafi ---> made by Shafi
the two digits ?? no explanation

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Dom

[HangPC2]

Originally Posted by Dom

the inlaid was practiced every where,
for the countries using arabic alphabet the religion is often the subject,
indeed none speaking arabic, as well as; Turkey, Persia (Iran), Pakistan, even India, Spain (Moorish) and may be China

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Dom

Malay Jawi Alphabet

[Dom]

Hi
certainly "Malaysia" (sorry to have forget it in the list)
huge Muslim country (biggest than Arabic countries all together)
where arabic alphabet is in use, for religious purpose
even if the population doesn't speak at all that language, as native

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Hi,
during polish a blade i see olso this write,I think it is gold or brass.... are you able to translate?

thanks
BerberDagger

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

.... are you able to translate?

under all reserves, because
- sentence seems incomplet
- calligraphy average

sense of reading <------
(?)A'Ali(?) Al wa ??????? (missing part ??)
(?)High(?) The and ??????
religious dedicace including God qualification "The High"

sorry if I cannot be more acute

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Hi Dom,
thank you very much...
on the other side of blade there is this...it could be a other sentence...

[Dom]

Hi, good day
two comments;
- at left side possible to read the date ; 1287 either 1870 Gregorian calendar

- at right side, the quality of the macro is too weak, and the sentence seems cut ??

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Thank you Dom.

Yes, sorry i m not good to do photo.

I add photo of total blade.

[BerberDagger]

hi
not comment abaut this blade? im not able to find a name for it...

for me is persian or indian...

please let me known your opinions...

thanks

[HangPC2]

King Offa (Mercia Kingdom)


http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0037.htm

http://www.cambridgemuslims.info/DidYouKnow/Default.htm

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

for me is persian or indian...

not persian, neither indian
but real arabic, possible to read a part of religious inscription .. as usual
"The High, The Merciful, God" (green pic)

the flash with the camera, prevent possibilities of exposure correction
better a picture too dark, I may correct it, if uniform, tks

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Dom

[BerberDagger]

Thanks Dom...

Why do you think it is Arabic?
I ve found a similar sword with name Zulfiquar...what do you think?

I add other photo with black ....

thanks

[Dom]

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

Why do you think it is Arabic?

easy ... LOL
my sweet wife is an Arabic Lady, who is graduated from university
she is "the" translator, as before I mentionned here
either, she may read, and she translated to me, that is enough for me as prove, that's it's arabic

Originally Posted by BerberDagger

I ve found a similar sword with name Zulfiquar...what do you think?

yes, but ..... really as well as yours ?? does it double blade ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulfiqar
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001968.html
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=Zulfiqar

back soon, with the translation, if any result
(I hate your camera flash )

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Dom