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28th February 2024, 07:24 PM | #1 |
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Hi Detlef,
thank you for your reply, and you have a nice selection of Rencong as well, I did not get much more info on the Rencong of mine. I know now Rencong Gayo area with saruek ulat. I had from Erik a collector from the Netherlands that he once had a klewang type weapon from Gayo that had similar decoration. On the internet is not much to find either about this type most links come out by Vikingsword. So we will see if i can find more info on it. |
28th February 2024, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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Here a relevant picture from Volz.
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28th February 2024, 08:12 PM | #4 |
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Thank you Detlef,
Interesting these images, do you have the the books by Volz? I like all the variations in weapons shown by you. |
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28th February 2024, 10:24 PM | #6 |
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This type of Rencong i found on the museum collection of the Met collection where it had the following description:
Dagger (Bade-bade) with Sheath Sumatran, possibly Acheen 16th–19th century This one also has a sleeve different than the crowned versions. And Detlef, your rencong with akha bahar is also a beautiful example. |
2nd March 2024, 12:12 AM | #7 |
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Thanks for chiming in, Detlef, while I was experiencing a busy time!
I see where you're coming from regarding a possible Gayo attribution. Martin, could you please provide a pic of the scabbard with the blade inserted (best position)? Also, does it feel like an original fit? BTW, I and Gavin have both volumes by Volz - any additional details you like, Martin? Regards, Kai |
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BTW, the saruek ulat is not limited to Gayo origins. It is also commonly found with Luju/Sikin Lapan Sagi which is from Aceh proper, too. Regards, Kai |
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4th March 2024, 03:55 PM | #9 |
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Hi Kai,
thank your for the extra info, i will have a look for these places, I just ordered the 1912 edition from: Volz, Wilhelm: Nord-Sumatra. Band II: Die Gajoländer. And it is on it's way from Berlin. Will take some pictures later today when i am home. The Rencong fits like a hand in a glove and it is the scabard that belongs to it. When my aquintance is back from Indonesia, i will ask him where he got the Rencong from so maybe i find out more. Regards, Martin |
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Hi Kai,
i also found a Luju Alang on pinterest no description further or where the picture came from but it has a sleeve with similarities with the rencong. Last edited by Pendita65; 4th March 2024 at 07:57 PM. |
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Handle sleeves are common with North Sumatran weapons, see for example a co jang from my collection or two of the rencongs I've shown. So is also the sleeve by the sikin panjang you found on the net rather plain but embossed (I guess) while your rencong has a crown like sleeve in combination with a plain sleeve. I guess that the plain sleeve on your rencong is from suassa and the saruek ulat "crown" could be gold. So my guess is also that the handle is from a sort of (marine) ivory. Can you please post a clearer pic by daylight? Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 4th March 2024 at 10:30 PM. Reason: add pic |
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4th March 2024, 08:54 PM | #12 |
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Hi Detlef and Kai,
Just took pictures with a loud and daylight lamp. And I truly believe it is Horn as it is soft to the teeth and ivory is hard Regards, Martin |
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Hi Martin,
Thank you for the pics! Handle material could be wood when I look at the attached picture. Regards, Detlef |
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