Finnish Puukko Knife

A Senefelder · 25th March 2011, 03:57 AM

I've been meaning to post this and several other items i've picked up since getting together with Lee this past summer. This was my first foray into non Indo-Persian ethnographic weapons which I have Lee to thank for peaking my interest in. I picked this up in an antique store labeled as an " Southeast Asian Knife ". Something about the heart motif in the sheath and the shape of the handle as well as the tang nut was telling me this wasn't right. Hearts as a decorative motif we used in northern and central Europe on everything from weapons and armour to ceramics and furniture. I'm used to seeing tang nuts on European weapons but not so much those of the orient but untimately it was the shape of the hilt and the blade that had me comming up with puukko knife.

The sheath seems to be " German silver " while the hilt furniture including the pommel nut and three insets by the flower decoration on the handle are all real silver. There are 96 tiny brass tacks inset around the handle as well. The flower motif in the handle from what I can gather while looking like bone may be the horn of the indigenous reindeer. I am unsure if the hilt is a hardwood or horn as it is very smooth. On the back of the sheath are the letters KH on the mount for the loop that would hold the chain and snap for suspension that seems to have been used to carry these. The inside of the sheath is lined with a thin leather. I've had a Swedish friend tell me that he actually believes this to be a Swedish soumi knife rather than a Finnish puukko. My best guess based on constructional techniques is later 19th century or early 20th century. Any thoughts on how far off I am, potential owner of the KH intitals ect. are more than welcome as my background is in European medieval and renaissance arms and armour so i'm very new to ethnographics.

If this is in fact a puukko, from my research this seems to be one of the nicest examples I can find picture of. All thoughts welcome.

Nagawarrior · 25th March 2011, 04:42 AM

Possibly a "dress" knife ( Bunadskniven) from Norway. Worn as part of traditional dress, (bunad).
Here is my example.

A Senefelder · 25th March 2011, 04:46 AM

The tips of the sheaths of the one you posted and mine are very similar indeed. That certainly is possible.

Nagawarrior · 25th March 2011, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by A Senefelder

The tips of the sheaths of the one you posted and mine are very similar indeed. That certainly is possible.

Yes, very similar. The handle is a little different. I'm looking for pictures like yours under Norwegian knives and haven't found one yet.

Stephen*

Nagawarrior · 25th March 2011, 09:24 AM

The KH could well stand for;
KH or K.Høgda - Makers Mark.
Høgda, Kjell - Makers Name.
Sør-Odal - Area of Norway.

-Stephen*

Rich · 25th March 2011, 12:59 PM

Definitely Norwegian, from the Toten region I believe. Check this link and go to the Norwegian pages. It is in Swedish, but has a Google translator. I think you'll find all the information to get a positive id.

http://www.cultur.nu/knivar/index.shtml

Here's another site with loads of info on Norwegian knives. Per Thoresen is the "man" when it comes to Norwegian knives.

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

This is the google translation. Leaves a lot to be desired, but is enough to be reasonably understandable.

Rich S

A Senefelder · 25th March 2011, 01:58 PM

Thanks very much for the help guys. Norwegian knives of this sort do seem to have the finiel on the end of the sheath and pommel nuts as a fairly common feature. I found several pics on the second site Rich posted that show some similarly shaped grips to mine. Any other thoughts/info more than welcome.

Blacksmith · 26th March 2011, 12:20 AM

It´s a Norwegian knife from the end of the 1800/beginning of the 1900. have seen them quite many here in finland. Nice example!

A Senefelder · 26th March 2011, 03:11 AM

Hi folks, after perusing the sites Rich linked to I am completely in agreement on the Norwegian country of origin. Thanks very much guys and Blacksmith for the approximate date as well. This was fun, being a European medieval and renaissance arms and armour guy i'm new to ethnographics. Its a much larger field of study and the possibilites for " a find " much higher even if you're not sure what it is, which as i'm learning is at least half the fun.

25th March 2011, 03:57 AM	#1
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	Finnish Puukko Knife I've been meaning to post this and several other items i've picked up since getting together with Lee this past summer. This was my first foray into non Indo-Persian ethnographic weapons which I have Lee to thank for peaking my interest in. I picked this up in an antique store labeled as an " Southeast Asian Knife ". Something about the heart motif in the sheath and the shape of the handle as well as the tang nut was telling me this wasn't right. Hearts as a decorative motif we used in northern and central Europe on everything from weapons and armour to ceramics and furniture. I'm used to seeing tang nuts on European weapons but not so much those of the orient but untimately it was the shape of the hilt and the blade that had me comming up with puukko knife. The sheath seems to be " German silver " while the hilt furniture including the pommel nut and three insets by the flower decoration on the handle are all real silver. There are 96 tiny brass tacks inset around the handle as well. The flower motif in the handle from what I can gather while looking like bone may be the horn of the indigenous reindeer. I am unsure if the hilt is a hardwood or horn as it is very smooth. On the back of the sheath are the letters KH on the mount for the loop that would hold the chain and snap for suspension that seems to have been used to carry these. The inside of the sheath is lined with a thin leather. I've had a Swedish friend tell me that he actually believes this to be a Swedish soumi knife rather than a Finnish puukko. My best guess based on constructional techniques is later 19th century or early 20th century. Any thoughts on how far off I am, potential owner of the KH intitals ect. are more than welcome as my background is in European medieval and renaissance arms and armour so i'm very new to ethnographics. If this is in fact a puukko, from my research this seems to be one of the nicest examples I can find picture of. All thoughts welcome. Attached Images

25th March 2011, 04:42 AM	#2
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Possibly a "dress" knife ( Bunadskniven) from Norway. Worn as part of traditional dress, (bunad). Here is my example. Attached Images Last edited by Nagawarrior; 25th March 2011 at 09:02 AM.

25th March 2011, 04:46 AM	#3
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	The tips of the sheaths of the one you posted and mine are very similar indeed. That certainly is possible.

25th March 2011, 09:24 AM	#5
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	The KH could well stand for; KH or K.Høgda - Makers Mark. Høgda, Kjell - Makers Name. Sør-Odal - Area of Norway. -Stephen*

25th March 2011, 12:59 PM	#6
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Definitely Norwegian, from the Toten region I believe. Check this link and go to the Norwegian pages. It is in Swedish, but has a Google translator. I think you'll find all the information to get a positive id. http://www.cultur.nu/knivar/index.shtml Here's another site with loads of info on Norwegian knives. Per Thoresen is the "man" when it comes to Norwegian knives. http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0= This is the google translation. Leaves a lot to be desired, but is enough to be reasonably understandable. Rich S

25th March 2011, 01:58 PM	#7
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	Thanks very much for the help guys. Norwegian knives of this sort do seem to have the finiel on the end of the sheath and pommel nuts as a fairly common feature. I found several pics on the second site Rich posted that show some similarly shaped grips to mine. Any other thoughts/info more than welcome.

26th March 2011, 12:20 AM	#8
Blacksmith Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 98	It´s a Norwegian knife from the end of the 1800/beginning of the 1900. have seen them quite many here in finland. Nice example!

26th March 2011, 03:11 AM	#9
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	Hi folks, after perusing the sites Rich linked to I am completely in agreement on the Norwegian country of origin. Thanks very much guys and Blacksmith for the approximate date as well. This was fun, being a European medieval and renaissance arms and armour guy i'm new to ethnographics. Its a much larger field of study and the possibilites for " a find " much higher even if you're not sure what it is, which as i'm learning is at least half the fun.