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Old 28th June 2020, 06:14 PM   #1
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There is not much I can say except I bought it in a poor condition; a lot of dirt on the blade with a little that looked like rust on the marks and too dry leather on the wooden scabbard..

After reviving the leather on the scabbard , cleaning the blade without trying to damage its marks, you can see the result in the enclosed picts.


Total length 39 cm
Scabbard 26 cm
Dagger 37 cm
Handle 12,5 cm ( handle is made out of bone)
Blade 24 cm
Marks 7 cm on each side of the blade

As for the origin and age I have no clue at all...

Perhaps another primitive and obscure daggers from the Middle East like Mr. Motan advised previously?

So forum...kindly requested to advise on origin and age, thank you very much!
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:16 PM   #2
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a few more pics
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:25 PM   #3
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I see some similarities with shula daggers and koumyas. Maybe some kind of morrocan poor man's koumya ? 🤔
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:54 PM   #4
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Looks very North African to me. Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia. 20th century.
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:57 PM   #5
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would they have a wooden scabbard covered by leather ?

I bought it from a Russian gent from Siberia, close to Kazachstan, who sells Russian artifacts and items from the former Sovjet Union, but that might not say anything in this case about this dagger...

thnx a lot for your swift reply / je Vous merci !

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Old 28th June 2020, 07:33 PM   #6
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Do you have a side (edge on) view? I would like to see how it was mounted. And a view of the throat of the scabbard?
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Old 28th June 2020, 07:55 PM   #7
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as requested
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Old 28th June 2020, 09:10 PM   #8
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I agree with your assertion that it belongs in the greater Indopersian sphere of influence. Why? I can't give a good answer. It just seems vaguely familiar.

To the forum; how common are those groves in the throat of the sheath? Here is another example.
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