Anyone familiar with 18th-19thC Brass cartidge boxes?

Atlantia · 13th June 2010, 06:27 PM

This pair made my wallet somewhat lighter today.
I thought eastern Europe?
Anyone know anything about these, I've never had one before.

ilias · 13th June 2010, 06:43 PM

Hi Atlantia.
These are really a very nice pair of 19th c. ottoman cartridge boxes.
I say ottoman because of the decoration style with the mosques.Also you are lucky enough because pairs are rare.
Best.
Ilias

Atlantia · 13th June 2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ilias

Hi Atlantia.
These are really a very nice pair of 19th c. ottoman cartridge boxes.
I say ottoman because of the decoration style with the mosques.Also you are lucky enough because pairs are rare.
Best.
Ilias

Brilliant, thank you so much for the quick reply Ilias.
Any thoughs on what part of the 19thC?
Best
Gene

ilias · 13th June 2010, 07:43 PM

Possibly first half of 19th c.
Also the Greek name of this kind of cartridge box is "Palaska''.
Best.
Ilias

Atlantia · 13th June 2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ilias

Possibly first half of 19th c.
Also the Greek name of this kind of cartridge box is "Palaska''.
Best.
Ilias

Thats good news. Thanks for your help Ilias, it is very much appreciated.
Especially as, being a novice in this area I took a chance buying them!
Best wishes
Gene

Matchlock · 13th June 2010, 11:02 PM

Hi Gene, Hi Ilias,

They are certainly Ottoman and are not rare to find.

Michael

ilias · 14th June 2010, 09:27 AM

Hi Michael.
In my opinion the rare thing is to find them as a matched pair.
Of course you can find many of them as a single piece but as a pair there aren't so many.
Best
Ilias

Atlantia · 14th June 2010, 09:17 PM

Hi Michael,

Well they are rare to me, as I've never even owned one before

At least its agreed that they are Ottoman.

Were they routinely carried in pairs? Anyone have any pictures?
Thanks
Gene

ilias · 15th June 2010, 12:19 AM

Hi Antlantia.
Usually these cartridge boxes were at the waist of the warrior so there aren't so many pictures to show them.
I provide you some paintings from Peter Von Hess 1792-1871 that he made during the Greek War of Independence.You can see some warriors wear pairs of these cartridge boxes.
Best
Ilias

ilias · 15th June 2010, 12:22 AM

Seems to have some problems with the pictures.
I will try to solve it.
I am sorry.

Atlantia · 16th June 2010, 12:19 AM

Ilias,
You have perfectly put them into context for me, thank you so much.
I had searched online images for ages and not found anything like the pictures you have supplied.
Excellent examples, just what I wanted, bravo!

Best
Gene

13th June 2010, 06:27 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Anyone familiar with 18th-19thC Brass cartidge boxes? This pair made my wallet somewhat lighter today. I thought eastern Europe? Anyone know anything about these, I've never had one before.

14th June 2010, 09:17 PM	#8
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Michael, Well they are rare to me, as I've never even owned one before At least its agreed that they are Ottoman. Were they routinely carried in pairs? Anyone have any pictures? Thanks Gene Last edited by Atlantia; 14th June 2010 at 10:43 PM.

15th June 2010, 12:19 AM	#9
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Hi Antlantia. Usually these cartridge boxes were at the waist of the warrior so there aren't so many pictures to show them. I provide you some paintings from Peter Von Hess 1792-1871 that he made during the Greek War of Independence.You can see some warriors wear pairs of these cartridge boxes. Best Ilias Attached Images Last edited by Lee; 15th June 2010 at 01:31 PM. Reason: cause attachements 2 & 3 to display

13th June 2010, 06:43 PM	#2
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Hi Atlantia. These are really a very nice pair of 19th c. ottoman cartridge boxes. I say ottoman because of the decoration style with the mosques.Also you are lucky enough because pairs are rare. Best. Ilias

13th June 2010, 07:43 PM	#4
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Possibly first half of 19th c. Also the Greek name of this kind of cartridge box is "Palaska''. Best. Ilias

13th June 2010, 11:02 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Gene, Hi Ilias, They are certainly Ottoman and are not rare to find. Michael

14th June 2010, 09:27 AM	#7
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Hi Michael. In my opinion the rare thing is to find them as a matched pair. Of course you can find many of them as a single piece but as a pair there aren't so many. Best Ilias

15th June 2010, 12:22 AM	#10
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Seems to have some problems with the pictures. I will try to solve it. I am sorry.

16th June 2010, 12:19 AM	#11
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Ilias, You have perfectly put them into context for me, thank you so much. I had searched online images for ages and not found anything like the pictures you have supplied. Excellent examples, just what I wanted, bravo! Best Gene