Surely a carving knife???

Tim Simmons · 18th December 2007, 09:20 PM

Look here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=008
Looks like a carving knife part or the knife fork set. It just does not look convincing. Whay say you?

Lew · 18th December 2007, 09:26 PM

Well I must agree with Tim definately a carving knife. Old Sheffield bowies were pretty stout knives this one seems whimpy to me.

Lew

Robert · 18th December 2007, 09:30 PM

Looks like a nice hollow ground carving knife to me. The point looks to be reworked, possible to give it that bowie appearance? JMHO

Norman McCormick · 18th December 2007, 10:06 PM

This is almost certainly a carving knife from a late 19th early 20th century set usually with a similar sized twin tined fork and sometimes a sharpening steel as well, lots on E-Bay. The long necked short tailed hound is a deer.
Regards,
Norman.

spiral · 18th December 2007, 10:18 PM

Its a carving knife, the poor use of ground ends to the antler to make it fit the blade would be 20th century not 19th if made in England or indeed europe, IMHO of course...

Spiral

Rick · 18th December 2007, 10:26 PM

Somewhere ; someone believes .

Lew · 18th December 2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Somewhere ; someone believes .

Maybe if we sprinkle fairy dust on it and wish really,really hard.

Lew

A. G. Maisey · 18th December 2007, 10:37 PM

I doubt that this is a carving knife.

I have a number of 19th century carving knives and in all cases the blade thickness at the base of the blade is very, very much less than the blade thickness of this example.

Perhaps 20 or so years ago I owned a very similar knife to this one that was still with its original leather sheath.

I think that this is probably the larger of the two knives that were used for field dressing of game in 19th century Scotland.

Tim Simmons · 19th December 2007, 08:48 AM

A sort of carving knife

certainly not a bowie. Too light, no rivits, no through tang.

A. G. Maisey · 19th December 2007, 12:04 PM

No, definitely not a bowie, and I guess yes, some kind of carving knife---just not for use at table.

I think the correct name is a gralloch knife---but I'm running on memory and could be wrong.

Norman McCormick · 19th December 2007, 07:51 PM

Hello,
Gralloch is the correct term with regard to the dressing of deer.
Regards,
Norman.

A. G. Maisey · 19th December 2007, 08:09 PM

Thanks Norman.

That's a deer on the pommel cap, isn't it?

Norman McCormick · 19th December 2007, 08:26 PM

Hello A.G.,
I would say it's a deer, I've kept hounds, in fact I have a rather large Greyhound lying at my feet at the moment and she agrees, long neck short tail it's a deer, yummy.
Regards,
Norman.

A. G. Maisey · 19th December 2007, 09:19 PM

Ah, well, since we have the agreement of our expert greyhound, I guess it truly is a knife for use on the deer.

Norman McCormick · 19th December 2007, 09:30 PM

For use on deer, certainly, whether out on the hill or out of the oven is another question altogether?
Regards,
Norman.

18th December 2007, 09:20 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Surely a carving knife??? Look here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=008 Looks like a carving knife part or the knife fork set. It just does not look convincing. Whay say you?

18th December 2007, 10:26 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Gentlemen , Forbear ! Somewhere ; someone believes .

18th December 2007, 09:26 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Well I must agree with Tim definately a carving knife. Old Sheffield bowies were pretty stout knives this one seems whimpy to me. Lew

18th December 2007, 09:30 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Looks like a nice hollow ground carving knife to me. The point looks to be reworked, possible to give it that bowie appearance? JMHO

18th December 2007, 10:06 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	This is almost certainly a carving knife from a late 19th early 20th century set usually with a similar sized twin tined fork and sometimes a sharpening steel as well, lots on E-Bay. The long necked short tailed hound is a deer. Regards, Norman.

18th December 2007, 10:18 PM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Its a carving knife, the poor use of ground ends to the antler to make it fit the blade would be 20th century not 19th if made in England or indeed europe, IMHO of course... Spiral

18th December 2007, 10:37 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	I doubt that this is a carving knife. I have a number of 19th century carving knives and in all cases the blade thickness at the base of the blade is very, very much less than the blade thickness of this example. Perhaps 20 or so years ago I owned a very similar knife to this one that was still with its original leather sheath. I think that this is probably the larger of the two knives that were used for field dressing of game in 19th century Scotland.

19th December 2007, 08:48 AM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	A sort of carving knife certainly not a bowie. Too light, no rivits, no through tang.

19th December 2007, 12:04 PM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	No, definitely not a bowie, and I guess yes, some kind of carving knife---just not for use at table. I think the correct name is a gralloch knife---but I'm running on memory and could be wrong.

19th December 2007, 07:51 PM	#11
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hello, Gralloch is the correct term with regard to the dressing of deer. Regards, Norman.

19th December 2007, 08:09 PM	#12
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	Thanks Norman. That's a deer on the pommel cap, isn't it?

19th December 2007, 08:26 PM	#13
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hello A.G., I would say it's a deer, I've kept hounds, in fact I have a rather large Greyhound lying at my feet at the moment and she agrees, long neck short tail it's a deer, yummy. Regards, Norman.

19th December 2007, 09:19 PM	#14
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	Ah, well, since we have the agreement of our expert greyhound, I guess it truly is a knife for use on the deer.

19th December 2007, 09:30 PM	#15
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	For use on deer, certainly, whether out on the hill or out of the oven is another question altogether? Regards, Norman.