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Old 29th September 2012, 09:30 AM   #1
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I wonder if anybody can tell me more about the inscription in the blade of this golok?

Thank you in advance,
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Old 29th September 2012, 12:47 PM   #2
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Arabic...

The line from the first image is probably the opening line of most of the books of the Qur'an...

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm

Which translates - In the name of God; The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

Second image is upside down. The line is not familiar to me and I don't read Arabic...only Jawi (which uses Arabic characters) but an Arabic speaker will be able to translate it.

Nice golok.
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Old 29th September 2012, 02:03 PM   #3
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Arabic...

The line from the first image is probably the opening line of most of the books of the Qur'an...

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm

Which translates - In the name of God; The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Thank you very much!
At least we have the first line translated than.

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Second image is upside down. The line is not familiar to me and I don't read Arabic...only Jawi (which uses Arabic characters) but an Arabic speaker will be able to translate it.
Every time when I ask for a translation, it seemed I have it upside down.
Thank you for the tip and I turned it around so it's easier to read for the one who can read it:
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Old 29th September 2012, 04:09 PM   #4
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The line is not familiar to me and I don't read Arabic...only Jawi (which uses Arabic characters) but an Arabic speaker will be able to translate it.
Here we are

- LA HOLA WALA QOWATE ILLA BILLAH ALIYYIL-AZIM
either (the English translation does not completely convey the full meaning of the phrase, but here our best proposal)
- THERE IS NO MIGHT NOR POWER EXCEPT IN ALLAH

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Old 29th September 2012, 04:47 PM   #5
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Thank you Dom for translation the other line of the inscription!


Wow that was quick!

Thank you both for your quick input!

Kind Regards,
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Old 30th September 2012, 12:53 AM   #6
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Hi Maurice,

Nice one with the inscription !
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