A 13 luk keris for id

Wijaya34 · 24th December 2022, 11:46 PM

Hi everyone I'm a new keris collector. I just recently got this keris from an auction, what can you guys tell me about this keris? it has a mixture between pamor miring and pamor mlumah the garap looks decent so I thought it's a rather interesting keris.

David · 26th December 2022, 06:50 PM

Welcome to the forum Wijaya.
It is an interesting keris. I suspect that despite the current dress the blade originates elsewhere, perhaps Madura. Would be nice to see this blade in full stain if you have access to warangan or some person who can do that for you. I'd like to see this pamor in full stain.
The hilt is not oriented properly for this dress form. The hilt should be turned 90 degrees as shown in the photo below.

jagabuwana · 29th December 2022, 02:26 AM

This is likely my inexperience talking but something about this blade is giving me the impression that it's Java influenced but not entirely mainline Javanese. The sorsoran area looks peninsula or north coast. Hoping this spurs more discussion and responses.

kai · 29th December 2022, 04:53 PM

Welcome to the forum!

IMVHO, garap seems to fall short of any traditional Tanah Jawa standards. Thus, it might be tough to ascertain any origin.

The pamor seems to be surface-manipulated mlumah.

Regards,
Kai

Marcokeris · 29th December 2022, 09:45 PM

Wijaya your keris seems to have a very nice pamor

I think is better to change the Yogya pendok with another Solo pendok
Nice blade!!

A. G. Maisey · 29th December 2022, 10:47 PM

Yes Kai.

It is well & truly outside of any standard form that I recognise, it is the combination of characteristics that is a sticking point for me, they just don't fit together.

The pamor is surface manipulated mlumah, however, I do feel that an in-hand examination would indicate that it has some age.

Gavin Nugent · 26th January 2023, 05:53 AM

I can only add that this is a wonderful pamor, it looks very well controlled to me.

Gavin

David · 26th January 2023, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

I can only add that this is a wonderful pamor, it looks very well controlled to me.

Gavin

It would be nice to see this blade again after warangan.

24th December 2022, 11:46 PM	#1
Wijaya34 Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 4	A 13 luk keris for id Hi everyone I'm a new keris collector. I just recently got this keris from an auction, what can you guys tell me about this keris? it has a mixture between pamor miring and pamor mlumah the garap looks decent so I thought it's a rather interesting keris. Attached Images

26th December 2022, 06:50 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,126	Welcome to the forum Wijaya. It is an interesting keris. I suspect that despite the current dress the blade originates elsewhere, perhaps Madura. Would be nice to see this blade in full stain if you have access to warangan or some person who can do that for you. I'd like to see this pamor in full stain. The hilt is not oriented properly for this dress form. The hilt should be turned 90 degrees as shown in the photo below. Attached Images

29th December 2022, 02:26 AM	#3
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 282	This is likely my inexperience talking but something about this blade is giving me the impression that it's Java influenced but not entirely mainline Javanese. The sorsoran area looks peninsula or north coast. Hoping this spurs more discussion and responses.

29th December 2022, 04:53 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Welcome to the forum! IMVHO, garap seems to fall short of any traditional Tanah Jawa standards. Thus, it might be tough to ascertain any origin. The pamor seems to be surface-manipulated mlumah. Regards, Kai

29th December 2022, 09:45 PM	#5
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Wijaya your keris seems to have a very nice pamor I think is better to change the Yogya pendok with another Solo pendok Nice blade!!

29th December 2022, 10:47 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,896	Yes Kai. It is well & truly outside of any standard form that I recognise, it is the combination of characteristics that is a sticking point for me, they just don't fit together. The pamor is surface manipulated mlumah, however, I do feel that an in-hand examination would indicate that it has some age.

26th January 2023, 05:53 AM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I can only add that this is a wonderful pamor, it looks very well controlled to me. Gavin