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Recently, I aquired a Wedhung with quite a spectacular pamor. Unfortunately, the blade had some spots of active rust that had to be removed. I managed to remove nicely all traces of active rust, but I also washed out most of the pamor as well. I am quite adept at etching wootz blades, but noticed to my surprised that my technique doesn't work with the pamor.
Does anybody know a where I can I have the pamor restored? ![]() |
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The technique for staining blades is done with warangan (arsenic and lime). If you search the site you should find some instructions on this, though obtaining arsenic can be difficult for many. Some people use industrial grade arsenic which gives a fairly consistent result while many grind up the actual mineral for the process which can be less consistent, but might be easier to get your hands on.
There are people who do this as a service, but few outside of Indonesia. Where do you live? |
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I live in the Netherlands, and here only asking about arsenic can land you in hot water. So there is no way I can legally get it. However, I will travel next month to Indonesia, so if you know any place there would be quite helpful. |
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There are an awful lot of keris collectors (and keris) in The Netherlands. Perhaps there is someone there who does traditional warangan treatments.
I cannot tell you much about who can do this for you in Indonesia. Perhaps others can help you there. |
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I know a keris dealer here who might help. In the worst case I will start experimenting myself with the chemicals I have. ![]() |
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Is anyone doing this in the U.S? I have a blade or two that could use an etch. I mentioned the possibility of trying this at home to my significant other, and her eyes got wide, and, well, let's just say I'm glad she didn't have a keris handy.
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hello depends ware you will go when you go to yogyakarta ik can help you with that i know 2 tukang maranggi
regards semar |
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Yes, I will go to Yogyakarta in May and I can take the Wedhung with me to have it etched. So, any more information will be welcomed! Best regards, Marius |
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... it doesn't work!
I already tried it and yes, I can get a very nice black blade but no pamor visible. I also tried different concentrations but still the results are quite dissapointing. I also tried Nital and Ferric Chloride that I normally use for etching wootz blades, but with pathetic results. So, what works for etching wootz or blacking steel, apparently doesn't work for revealing the pamor... or at least I didn't know how to make it work. ![]() PS: Selenium dioxide in diluted form works also fine for revealing the watering pattern of wootz. |
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That's interesting! How much do you dilute it?
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hello Marius with date you are in Djogya en ware you stay
reagads semar |
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PS: I used undiluted Perma Blue for blacking an antique Japanese Tsuba with stellar results, and that's how I had it on hand to experiment with the Wedhung. |
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Didn't finish my itinerary yet, but I will let you know. |
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