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4th March 2024, 06:44 PM
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Hi Kai,
i also found a Luju Alang on pinterest no description further or where the picture came from but it has a sleeve with similarities with the rencong. Last edited by Pendita65; 4th March 2024 at 07:57 PM. |
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4th March 2024, 07:57 PM
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Handle sleeves are common with North Sumatran weapons, see for example a co jang from my collection or two of the rencongs I've shown. So is also the sleeve by the sikin panjang you found on the net rather plain but embossed (I guess) while your rencong has a crown like sleeve in combination with a plain sleeve. I guess that the plain sleeve on your rencong is from suassa and the saruek ulat "crown" could be gold. So my guess is also that the handle is from a sort of (marine) ivory. Can you please post a clearer pic by daylight? Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 4th March 2024 at 10:30 PM. Reason: add pic |
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4th March 2024, 08:54 PM
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Hi Detlef and Kai,
Just took pictures with a loud and daylight lamp. And I truly believe it is Horn as it is soft to the teeth and ivory is hard Regards, Martin |
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4th March 2024, 10:28 PM
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Hi Martin,
Thank you for the pics! Handle material could be wood when I look at the attached picture. Regards, Detlef |
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4th March 2024, 10:38 PM
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Hi Detlef,
i won't scrape the patina with a scalpel to find out, but i am allmost certain it's horn. whenever your in Amsterdam your welcome and i show it to you. Regards, Martin |
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5th March 2024, 12:30 AM
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Hello Martin,
Thanks for the additional pics and details! The hilt could be from albino waterbuffalo; however, judging from the surface where polished (as well as more matte optics where more patinated) and the visible pores & grain structure I believe I can make out, I'm siding with Detlef in guessing this might be wood, indeed! Why haven't you polished the remaining metal ring? More comments tomorrow... Regards, Kai |
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5th March 2024, 05:49 AM
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Hi Kai,
i didn't polish it yet because i also need to fasten it again. it's loose so i need to re-glue it. And from very close inspection with magnification you can see similar lines that are in horn. As a teacher in restoration of furniture and wooden objects i know my materials. I only used a soft cloth for silver to rub the sleeve and the tip, i am still in doubt if i will use some Nikco a very fine polish material for precious materials. Regards, Martin |
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