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My latest acquisitions, a pair of Eastern Black sea region of Turkey-Trabzon short swords with horn hilts. In fact I bought them from different shops but they look similar almost enough to accept as a pair. One is dated 1896 gregorien and its Hijri equivalent, and the other is dated only hijri, and there are just 10 years between their dates.
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Thanks for posting those. I love it every time I see something new and really cool in this forum. How long are they?
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Nice finds Erlikhan!
I also bought one, but still haven't recived it yet: |
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The blades are around 45 cms. Valjhun, yours is very nice too. Bought it from ebay?
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Yes, I've bought it fropm ebay, still haven't recived it yet. And here is the "matching" dagger:
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Nice! I gues that the world is getting smaller from day to day, nowadays... I find surprising the fact that the world collectiong community is not that big as one would expect. I'm really looking forward to recive that dagger, Thanks again!
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What I see makes my green with envy, nice, gad I got to see them pics.
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Tattarattataraaaaa!
And after a month of waiting, hoping, ecc I'm proud to present my Black sea group! Here they are, like the gollum said: "my precious, my pride!" The small one was a bitch, it took over a month toi get it from Bulgaria ![]() Last edited by Valjhun; 9th March 2006 at 06:07 PM. |
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I have another two questions for the short sword.
Firs is regarding the date. Looking at Tirri's it should be 12?1 A.H. How do you translate the symbol <? The second question is about the small dagger. The seller said in the description that it is from Bursa province, but to me the style looks almost the same as the other one from Trabzon... Thanks! |
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I'm pushing thatone up, 'cos I think it was overlooked and that someone surly knows the answer to my questions...
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Valjhun,the answer of your question can not be supported with exact criteria,but feelings which depend much on functionality,esthetics and the number of samples seen from different regions in past.Trabzon arms are more functional, Turko-Caucassian influenced hilts,curvatures,fullers everything are appropriate to and come after the functionality of the blade,which is produced mainly for real fighting in a tough geography of mountains,dense forests and fierce sea,little soil suitable for farming,feodalism, piracy,bandits,enthnical fights and Turkish sytle vendetta (except the very funny style of the Black sea yataghan). Blade makers in other regions have adobted some characteristics like hilt style in time (but still with nuances like in your bichaq) , or makers of Trabzon area have migrated to other regions for better living,but the production purpose is more decorative and accessory.If need to summarize my opinion ,I guess they can have more exaggerated,a bit feminine or not terrorizing like the ones from Trabzon but looking reasonless? curvatures,sometimes more decoareted,nielloed silver pieces,corals etc..Just feelings.
I post the pictures of similar Trabzon arms I have accumulated in the last few months.Meanwhile just message me whenever you wish to sell your Trabzon short sword ![]() Last edited by erlikhan; 13th May 2006 at 12:13 PM. |
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Impressive.
My sword is no for sale thou ![]() ![]() I'd like to hear your opinion about thatone below. Turkish/Trabzon? |
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