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Please, could you ID this keris. It is real weapon or touristic thing?
The blade is very slim. |
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Looks like a real weapon to me (of the Kodi variety), Javanese Surakarta form.
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A real weapon also for me (mybe a patrem..)
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I doesn't appear to be a "tourist" type keris at all, though it does seem unusually thin at the gonjo (could just be the pictures).
Since we don't have any demensions i am not sure why Marco would suggest this could be a patrem (women's keris). ![]() What are the demensions of this keris. ![]() |
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Possibly, but given the angle of the shot that might turn out to be a bit deceptive. I guess the true measurements will tell us.
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A Fairly old keris in my eyes.
based on this photo's: Its old, and not a tourist piece. The dress is indeed a surakarta style ( Solo ). Looking at the form and shape. Although the mendak(ring between the handle and the blade) seems to come from Madura. With old keris, you can almost never speek of original fittings, but i think it is important that the blade fits good in the sheeth. The dapur: The name of model of this blade with 3 curves is (according to Tammens) : Lara Sidua,Note that second curve must be in the middle. I cannot good tell from this photo's The patrorn Welding (pamor) of the blade is good visuable. The name of this pamor is Kulit semangka ( watermellon skin) So, a real keris...of course a keris can be used as a weapon, but has developped itself during the centuries as more than that. The owner who let it make could have other intentions than buying a waepon, for example status symbol or Talisman. But thats a different discussion. Some more photo's are always welcome greetings |
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Hi Simatua, it had been quite sometime... since last post.
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Lenghth of the blade - 34,8 cm
Lenghth of the hilt - 10 cm Thikness of the blade at the hilt - 8 mm |
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David, you are correct. A standard sized keris.
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Bermuda Triangle!Hotel California! eh?
.....Hey! You wouldn't be trying to get rid of me now, would you? ![]() ![]() |
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Lol!
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Dear Friends,
One more question. I'd like to buy this keris but according to russian laws we can not receive such knifes by poste. It will be stopped at custom and canfiscated. The unique issue is to take it to pieces. But the Seller can not turn off the hilt. Could you suggest me how to disasseble a keris? Thanks in advance |
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Gentle heat applied to the broad part of the blade, directly in front of the gonjo, while at the same time applying back and forth twisting pressure to the handle will normally loosen a handle.
By "gentle heat" I mean about the level of heat produced by a candle or a small kerosene lamp. The flame will leave soot on the blade, which can be wiped off with mineral turpentine. If the handle does not loosen up after a while, let it cool down completely, and then try again the following day. |
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