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Hello!
I am new to this forum. I would like to get help to identify this sword. I bought it recently on an auction in Sweden. It was just described as oriental. The blade has silver inlays. Does anyone have an Idea about What it is? |
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It does not look "oriental" to me.
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This seems a bit crazy but the layout and style of the fullers is identical to a model 1832 US Artillery Sword. This sword was itself based on the famous French 1816 Artillery Sword nick-named the coupe-chou or cabbage cutter.
The 1832 US sword pictured has an 18'' (46 cm) blade. How large is your sword? |
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Regards Miguel |
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This strikes me as an attempt to imitate a cinquedea of the 15th century, although not one of typical form.
However, I strongly suspect it is a 19th century "historismus" product. The blade may well be taken from an artillery pattern, the guard is certainly, at least in my opinion, not of any great age. Reproductions were quite common during the 19th century and still hold value. |
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Thank you for your thoughts about the sword. The blade is 63 cm, so much longer than the artillery sword mentioned. The blade is of high quality, the blade is flexible. The silver inlays are well done. I have also thought about some kind of a mix of parts, but then made a long time ago. 1800s? I bought it anyway because I just like the look and feel of the sword! It does look like something from the lord of the ring!
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Agrippa
Interesting about the blade lengths. The fuller patterns are so alike that I wonder if the French makers of the artillery sword took their inspiration from a sword similar to yours. Another amazing coincidence is that the overall length (including hilt) of my artillery sword is 63cm |
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sire, try looking in the direction of faschinenmessers of german origin similar to the M 1805 Bayern klingenlänge 630mm greetings iskender switzerland
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Wouldn't it be easier to suggest the opposite: Persian master copying ( or prettifying) French example? After all, he needed to make only one special order, whereas the French had to approve it as a regulation pattern and make thousands of them. |
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