Please help me identify this sword

[ASPaulding]

I have no clue how old it is or where it came from. Any help you could provide would be appreciated. Thank you

[corrado26]

Many of thes swords have been in use in Bavaria during the end of the 18th until the middle of the 19th century. But noone today knows exactly for what or for whom they have been made.

[fernando]

So you think it is the same thing, Udo.
Not many similarities, i guess .

[mariusgmioc]

Isn't this some kind of Masonic sword?!

I cannot give you any logical explanation but as soon as I saw the photo, I got this gut feeling that it is a masonic sword.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Isn't this some kind of Masonic sword?!

I cannot give you any logical explanation but as soon as I saw the photo, I got this gut feeling that it is a masonic sword.

That was my first impression too, Marius !
But the blade looking so operational .

[ASPaulding]

Originally Posted by fernando

That was my first impression too, Marius !
But the blade looking so operational .

I agree.

[ASPaulding]

I purchased from an auction Schnecksvill, PA. The auction had a lot of antique international swords and daggers. He knew everything about all the diffrent blades but this one. The sword is 38" total, blade is 32" and the crossgaurd 7" wide.

[toaster5sqn]

Given that the shoulders of the blade are visible below the cross guard instead of being inset into it I suspect that you have an old blade that has been rehilted. The blade looks a lot like a British spadroon blade and 32" is the exact regulation length for such blades. Also there appears to be a peened rivet in the middle of the cross which is not correct for a properly made blade and hilt but more common when someone without a background in swords makes something that looks like a sword.

So my guess would be a 1796 pattern spadroon blade that was repurposed as a masonic sword in someone's home workshop.

Robert

[Radboud]

I second Roberts comments that it is likely a composite of a spadroon blade and a cosmetic/theatrical hilt. Personally, I don't think it's a 1796 and more likely a later European type based on the ricasso shape.

Older spadroon blades from the late 18th or early 19th Century generally have a cutting edge that terminates closer to the hilt.

Cheers
Bas

[mariusgmioc]

Bingo!

There is a mismatch between the single-edged blade and the symmetrical hilt typical for double edged blades.

So I think you are spot on with your explanations!

[ASPaulding]

Ok thank you.