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Old 23rd July 2010, 12:20 AM   #1
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Default Mongol Ild?

I saw this sword in "The Deadliest Warrior" and took an instant liking to it. I'd never heard of an "ild" before, and google doesn't come back with much, unfortunately.

It's a one or two-handed short saber, about 30"-34". The blade has a nice curve and comes to something of a hatchet point.

Sorry I can't find a better picture than this, but does anyone know more about this kind of saber?

(I'd seriously consider a purchasing a reproduction of some kind if I could find one.)

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Old 23rd July 2010, 05:06 AM   #2
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Like this ?
The one lower right ?
Similar blade, no ?
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Old 23rd July 2010, 05:45 AM   #3
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Default kinda looks like

Kinda looks like the $178 ones from E###.

Reproduced for theatrics based on a vivid imagination

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Old 23rd July 2010, 10:04 AM   #4
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Like this ?
The one lower right ?
Similar blade, no ?
Rick, that's a nice one! What is it?
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Old 23rd July 2010, 10:29 AM   #5
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Rick, that's a nice one! What is it?

Queequeg,

The sword pictured is a Parang Nabur.

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Old 24th July 2010, 11:34 PM   #6
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Like this ?
The one lower right ?
Similar blade, no ?
My God... I have got to get one of those someday.

I found more pictures in google. Is this a picture of yours from a previous owner (Sirupate)?
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Old 26th July 2010, 10:28 PM   #7
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That's got to be Rick's picture--I recognize his deck.
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Old 27th July 2010, 03:02 AM   #8
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Yeah, the mouldy one !!
'Tis one and the same sword , taken by me .

My blade has a long yelman that is all but sharpened .
There is a ring of red paint just above the ferrule .





Purchase:
Ebay, ca. '98; wasn't cheap then .
Astute Seller .

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Old 27th July 2010, 04:52 AM   #9
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A Parang Nubar, is what Indonesian/ Malay? What is it's influence?

Allot the curved Asian swords seem to have their influence the middle east? Didn't the Chinese Dao gain influence from India?

I remember this replica of a Mongol calvary saber:
http://forum.grtc.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=740
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Old 27th July 2010, 09:24 AM   #10
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Default beladah belabang

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A Parang Nubar, is what Indonesian/ Malay? What is it's influence?
Original indigenous name of the parang nabur is "beladah belabang".
The beladah belabang is no dayak weapon but has Malay origine, and was found in southeast Borneo, Banjarmasin area.
Because there was a lot of trade going on there, they also are found once in a while in other areas.
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Old 27th July 2010, 02:53 PM   #11
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Like this ?
The one lower right ?
Similar blade, no ?
Rick, love the picture...the blades look lovely with the Christmas decorations
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Old 27th July 2010, 04:10 PM   #12
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Yep !
'Twas the Season then .

These types have also been listed as Barbary Pirate swords in at least one museum; Spain, I think .

I guess they got around ...
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Old 27th July 2010, 08:15 PM   #13
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Yeah, the mouldy one !!
'Tis one and the same sword , taken by me .
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I suggest:

http://www.timbertech.com/products/d...s/default.aspx
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Old 27th July 2010, 08:44 PM   #14
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Cool The Deck

Not until a storm brings it down .

The Pup jumped off it the other day, a 12 foot drop; she came up running .
Seems there was a Squirrel ...
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