Tombak / dagger/spear any comments

asomotif · 5th May 2009, 01:20 AM

Came along this tombak on a (military)collectors fair.

First one I ever bought.
Is it good ?
Any ideas on age ?

welcome for comments.

Best regards,
Willem

Rick · 5th May 2009, 02:38 AM

Close ups of the blade and especially it's base please .
If you can remove the blade from the handle it would be possibly helpful to see the tang .
Also measurements .
The point does not look quite right .
Possibly shortened ..

asomotif · 6th May 2009, 01:14 AM

some more pictures as requested.

Rick · 6th May 2009, 03:01 AM

The point looks wrong somehow ..

Alam Shah · 6th May 2009, 03:29 AM

The tombak blade material, I like. But somehow as Rick had mentioned the flow of the luks, seems awkward.. Looking at the close-up pics, there is a possibility of a shortened blade as the blade is pointing sideways..

Rick · 6th May 2009, 04:16 AM

Yes, the surface near the tip looks different than the rest of the spear (no pitting) .
This may have been reshaped at some point .
I think it has real age .

asomotif · 6th May 2009, 10:09 AM

Thanks,

That is my feeling too.
From the 3rd luk the blade becomes narrower.
The pamor follows the luks, but not as good as at the base.

But I liked the fittings (scabbard / handle) and the overall appearance.

Any suggestions on the style of the handle/scabbard ?

Best regards,
Willem

Rick · 6th May 2009, 04:41 PM

Hi Willem,

This looks like a fairly standard contemporary dress for this old tombak .

Here is another style of decoration; I don't know if these styles are regional or not .

I could suggest that the carved drag on the bottom of your scabbard reminds me of some Madura scabbards .

asomotif · 7th May 2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

I could suggest that the carved drag on the bottom of your scabbard reminds me of some Madura scabbards

That is my feeling too.

Nice carving on your example BTW.

Best regards,
Willem

Rick · 7th May 2009, 01:14 AM

Thank you Willem .

Sajen · 7th May 2009, 01:20 AM

Hi Willem,
old tombak with cut down tip, sheat look like from Madura/East Java.
Detlef

asomotif · 11th June 2009, 01:34 AM

Tombak is available on SWAP

5th May 2009, 01:20 AM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Tombak / dagger/spear any comments Came along this tombak on a (military)collectors fair. First one I ever bought. Is it good ? Any ideas on age ? welcome for comments. Best regards, Willem Attached Images

6th May 2009, 01:14 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	some more pictures as requested. Attached Images

6th May 2009, 03:29 AM	#5
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	The tombak blade material, I like. But somehow as Rick had mentioned the flow of the luks, seems awkward.. Looking at the close-up pics, there is a possibility of a shortened blade as the blade is pointing sideways.. Last edited by Alam Shah; 6th May 2009 at 07:54 AM.

6th May 2009, 04:41 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi Willem, This looks like a fairly standard contemporary dress for this old tombak . Here is another style of decoration; I don't know if these styles are regional or not . I could suggest that the carved drag on the bottom of your scabbard reminds me of some Madura scabbards . Attached Images

5th May 2009, 02:38 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Close ups of the blade and especially it's base please . If you can remove the blade from the handle it would be possibly helpful to see the tang . Also measurements . The point does not look quite right . Possibly shortened ..

6th May 2009, 03:01 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	The point looks wrong somehow ..

6th May 2009, 04:16 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Yes, the surface near the tip looks different than the rest of the spear (no pitting) . This may have been reshaped at some point . I think it has real age .

6th May 2009, 10:09 AM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Thanks, That is my feeling too. From the 3rd luk the blade becomes narrower. The pamor follows the luks, but not as good as at the base. But I liked the fittings (scabbard / handle) and the overall appearance. Any suggestions on the style of the handle/scabbard ? Best regards, Willem

7th May 2009, 01:14 AM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Thank you Willem .

7th May 2009, 01:20 AM	#11
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,783	Hi Willem, old tombak with cut down tip, sheat look like from Madura/East Java. Detlef

11th June 2009, 01:34 AM	#12
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Tombak is available on SWAP