My collection of sangi knives for enjoy!

Sajen · 5th March 2014, 06:14 PM

Here my small collection of sangi knives for your enjoy, the one in the middle is "new"!

Of course new in my collection.

Robert · 6th March 2014, 02:20 AM

That's a great little grouping you have there Detlef and my congratulations to you on its newest addition. This is another style of knife that I have not yet been unable to add to my own collection. Oh well, sooner or later I will find one with a price that will let me be able to fit it in despite my ever shrinking budget.

Best,
Robert

David · 6th March 2014, 07:25 AM

Nice collection. Here is my meager offering. A couple of others were also posted on this thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7506

Sajen · 6th March 2014, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert

That's a great little grouping you have there Detlef and my congratulations to you on its newest addition. This is another style of knife that I have not yet been unable to add to my own collection. Oh well, sooner or later I will find one with a price that will let me be able to fit it in despite my ever shrinking budget.

Best,
Robert

Thank you Robert. Sadly this knives seems to be rare and pop up seldom on the market but I am sure that you will find one one day for a good price.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 6th March 2014, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Nice collection. Here is my meager offering. A couple of others were also posted on this thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7506

Thank you as well David and you know that I like your one. Maybe others can show also their ones in this thread to show the different variations to give a overview to this nice little fellows.

Regards,
Detlef

VANDOO · 30th March 2014, 11:55 PM

I AM ADDING A FEW MORE PICTURES OF SANGI KNIVES FOR COMPARISON AND REFRENCE. PICTURE #1 & #2. LIKELY BAGOBO
#3. , #4., & #5. BAGOBO KNIFE.

Rich · 31st March 2014, 05:42 AM

OK guys, how about a little education for us doobs on the board. What region, country,
tribes, culture, etc and time frame are these from?

Rich S

Sajen · 31st March 2014, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

OK guys, how about a little education for us doobs on the board. What region, country,
tribes, culture, etc and time frame are these from?

Rich S

Hello Rich,

Bagobo tribe and maybe others around, Mindanao, Philippines. I think that my ones shown in up are from the first quarter of the 20th century.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 1st April 2014, 02:28 AM

Ok Rich, this is tough, but I'll give it a shot:

Sajen is right - they are all from the Bagobo tribe on Mindanao Island, Philippines.

Age - 1st, 2nd, and last are from early 20th century (like Sajen said), the 3rd and 4th are probably from the late 20th century.

David · 1st April 2014, 04:29 AM

Is the knife in the first two images posted by Barry in post #6 a sangi? Looks like a completely different knife to me in blade form, hilt and dress style as well as size.

Sajen · 2nd April 2014, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Is the knife in the first two images posted by Barry in post #6 a sangi? Looks like a completely different knife to me in blade form, hilt and dress style as well as size.

Have to agree, seems to be a complete different knife IMHO.

Sajen · 2nd April 2014, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Age - 1st, 2nd, and last are from early 20th century (like Sajen said), the 3rd and 4th are probably from the late 20th century.

I think and believe that the brass one from my collection is old like the both other ones, the wooden core inside the scabbard and some other hints let me think like this. But by metal it's difficult to give a reliable expertise opinion and of course I can be wrong.

Nonoy Tan · 2nd April 2014, 01:52 PM

Here is a specimen

Sajen · 2nd April 2014, 10:23 PM

Hello Nonoy,

very nice example!

Battara · 3rd April 2014, 01:05 AM

Maraming Salamat Nonoy Tan! This scabbard looks older to me - no later than say the 1930s. Is the knife itself original to the scabbard?

Beautiful piece in any case.

(I LOVE tiger bells

)

Nonoy Tan · 3rd April 2014, 01:36 PM

Thanks Detlef and Jose.

The knife and the scabbard have a museum number on them, and likely came together when they were accessioned some time in the past.

The elaborateness of the scabbard matches the quality of the blade which is thicker than all others I have encountered.

Here are a couple more images.

Sajen · 3rd April 2014, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

The elaborateness of the scabbard matches the quality of the blade which is thicker than all others I have encountered.

Nonoy, may I ask you how thick the blade is?

Thank you,
Detlef

Nonoy Tan · 3rd April 2014, 10:19 PM

Hi Detlef,

Unfortunately, I am unable to give a precise figure because I am currently not home for the next couple of months. But I would estimate around 3.0 mm near the handle.

Nonoy

Battara · 4th April 2014, 01:14 AM

Nonoy Tan, your piece is so helpful! I now see that some of these bronze hilts are older. I thought they were all newer. Apparently I was mistaken.

When you get back, would you also please post close ups of the hilt and blade too?

I noticed the sculpturing at the base of the blade.......

Battara · 4th April 2014, 01:44 AM

I don't have a sangi. what I can offer is this picture of a sangi on the back end of a Bagobo man. It is taken from National Geographic 1944 (vol.86, p567):

Sajen · 4th April 2014, 09:45 PM

I have taken some pictures from the small booklet "Treasures Of The Davao Museum" where several sangi knives are pictured, as well some with metal handles and scabbards.

Sajen · 18th November 2018, 04:01 PM

Have sold sometime ago the one with metal scabbard but have won recently an other one by a german auction house so the both remaining ones don't will feel alone!

Here some pictures and the new family portrait.

JeffS · 17th April 2022, 07:40 AM

Every once in awhile you find something good on Ebay... The blade is more substantial and a broader profile than the more recent examples I have. The mono steel blade has a nice "hamon" line. The spine work is a clean and a somewhat unusual feature on these as far as I can tell. Great piece of banati for the handle and the carving mirrors the spine filework.

2nd April 2014, 01:52 PM	#13
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Here is a specimen Attached Images

3rd April 2014, 01:36 PM	#16
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Thanks Detlef and Jose. The knife and the scabbard have a museum number on them, and likely came together when they were accessioned some time in the past. The elaborateness of the scabbard matches the quality of the blade which is thicker than all others I have encountered. Here are a couple more images. Attached Images

4th April 2014, 01:14 AM	#19
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Nonoy Tan, your piece is so helpful! I now see that some of these bronze hilts are older. I thought they were all newer. Apparently I was mistaken. When you get back, would you also please post close ups of the hilt and blade too? I noticed the sculpturing at the base of the blade....... Last edited by Battara; 4th April 2014 at 01:24 AM.

4th April 2014, 01:44 AM	#20
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	I don't have a sangi. what I can offer is this picture of a sangi on the back end of a Bagobo man. It is taken from National Geographic 1944 (vol.86, p567): Attached Images

4th April 2014, 09:45 PM	#21
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	I have taken some pictures from the small booklet "Treasures Of The Davao Museum" where several sangi knives are pictured, as well some with metal handles and scabbards. Attached Images

5th March 2014, 06:14 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	My collection of sangi knives for enjoy! Here my small collection of sangi knives for your enjoy, the one in the middle is "new"! Of course new in my collection. Attached Images

6th March 2014, 02:20 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	That's a great little grouping you have there Detlef and my congratulations to you on its newest addition. This is another style of knife that I have not yet been unable to add to my own collection. Oh well, sooner or later I will find one with a price that will let me be able to fit it in despite my ever shrinking budget. Best, Robert

6th March 2014, 07:25 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	Nice collection. Here is my meager offering. A couple of others were also posted on this thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7506

30th March 2014, 11:55 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I AM ADDING A FEW MORE PICTURES OF SANGI KNIVES FOR COMPARISON AND REFRENCE. PICTURE #1 & #2. LIKELY BAGOBO #3. , #4., & #5. BAGOBO KNIFE. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 31st March 2014 at 12:12 AM.

31st March 2014, 05:42 AM	#7
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	OK guys, how about a little education for us doobs on the board. What region, country, tribes, culture, etc and time frame are these from? Rich S

1st April 2014, 02:28 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Ok Rich, this is tough, but I'll give it a shot: Sajen is right - they are all from the Bagobo tribe on Mindanao Island, Philippines. Age - 1st, 2nd, and last are from early 20th century (like Sajen said), the 3rd and 4th are probably from the late 20th century.

1st April 2014, 04:29 AM	#10
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	Is the knife in the first two images posted by Barry in post #6 a sangi? Looks like a completely different knife to me in blade form, hilt and dress style as well as size.

2nd April 2014, 10:23 PM	#14
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Nonoy, very nice example!

3rd April 2014, 01:05 AM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Maraming Salamat Nonoy Tan! This scabbard looks older to me - no later than say the 1930s. Is the knife itself original to the scabbard? Beautiful piece in any case. (I LOVE tiger bells )

3rd April 2014, 10:19 PM	#18
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Hi Detlef, Unfortunately, I am unable to give a precise figure because I am currently not home for the next couple of months. But I would estimate around 3.0 mm near the handle. Nonoy

18th November 2018, 04:01 PM	#22
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Have sold sometime ago the one with metal scabbard but have won recently an other one by a german auction house so the both remaining ones don't will feel alone! Here some pictures and the new family portrait. Attached Images

17th April 2022, 07:40 AM	#23
JeffS Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 345	Every once in awhile you find something good on Ebay... The blade is more substantial and a broader profile than the more recent examples I have. The mono steel blade has a nice "hamon" line. The spine work is a clean and a somewhat unusual feature on these as far as I can tell. Great piece of banati for the handle and the carving mirrors the spine filework. Attached Images