Mandingo

Martin Lubojacky · 7th April 2010, 03:18 PM

Interesting is that despite the fact this sword should be (as far as references in literature are concerned and it was already discussed here, too) Mandingo from Guinea - it was acquired in Zaria in Northern Nigeria. There was embossed silver strip rolled on around upper part of the blade, but, unfortunately I lost it during cleaning...
Regards,
Martin

Luc LEFEBVRE · 7th April 2010, 07:23 PM

Described as Igala Afikpo from Nigeria by Zirngibl.

Tim Simmons · 7th April 2010, 07:29 PM

Conakry most be wrong? I would go for Nigeria/Cameroon?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=konda

Martin Lubojacky · 8th April 2010, 12:59 AM

Tim,
during discussion in your thread I infered also from the Mambele website, where it is described as Ful/Mandingo from Guinea.

Luc,
Please, re. the picture you have posted - is it from "the book "Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen" ? If not, could someone from our colleagues forumites look at the book "Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen" by Manfred Zirngibl ? If I am not mistaken, there should be a picture of similar short sword...I would be interested in its legend (I don´t have my books with me).

In any case, based on my few days old find in here Nigeria and Luc´s notice, your sword, Tim, is very probably also from Nigeria (Igala ?) and I would like to apologize for previous hurry-scurry verdicts.
Best regards,
Martin

Luc LEFEBVRE · 8th April 2010, 10:33 PM

Hi Martin,
The picture is from the last book of Zirngibl : Panga na visu
http://www.hepelo-verlag.de/?B%FCche...:panga_na_visu

In Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen a similar model made of wood is decribed as Fulbe, Mandingo, from Guinea.

Martin Lubojacky · 8th April 2010, 11:31 PM

Hi Luc,
Thank you very much. I must say it was interesting lesson (for me)
Regards,
Martin
P.S.: So Mambele description may be wrong ??

Tim Simmons · 10th April 2010, 08:06 PM

This is a fabulous place, yes?

It is quite possible that cult knives of this type are general to a very large foot print of west Africa even into central Africa, Congo? We are not privy to the religious and cultural use? We pick the pieces up and try to reform the jigsaw? We have to understand the possible diffusion of a religious/cult concept in an region of people. Just think of medieval Europe?

7th April 2010, 03:18 PM	#1
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Mandingo Interesting is that despite the fact this sword should be (as far as references in literature are concerned and it was already discussed here, too) Mandingo from Guinea - it was acquired in Zaria in Northern Nigeria. There was embossed silver strip rolled on around upper part of the blade, but, unfortunately I lost it during cleaning... Regards, Martin Attached Images

7th April 2010, 07:23 PM	#2
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 473	Described as Igala Afikpo from Nigeria by Zirngibl. Attached Images

8th April 2010, 10:33 PM	#5
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 473	Hi Martin, The picture is from the last book of Zirngibl : Panga na visu http://www.hepelo-verlag.de/?B%FCche...:panga_na_visu In Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen a similar model made of wood is decribed as Fulbe, Mandingo, from Guinea. Attached Images

10th April 2010, 08:06 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	This is a fabulous place, yes? It is quite possible that cult knives of this type are general to a very large foot print of west Africa even into central Africa, Congo? We are not privy to the religious and cultural use? We pick the pieces up and try to reform the jigsaw? We have to understand the possible diffusion of a religious/cult concept in an region of people. Just think of medieval Europe? Last edited by Tim Simmons; 10th April 2010 at 08:16 PM.

7th April 2010, 07:29 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Conakry most be wrong? I would go for Nigeria/Cameroon? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=konda

8th April 2010, 12:59 AM	#4
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Tim, during discussion in your thread I infered also from the Mambele website, where it is described as Ful/Mandingo from Guinea. Luc, Please, re. the picture you have posted - is it from "the book "Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen" ? If not, could someone from our colleagues forumites look at the book "Seltene Afrikanische Kurzwaffen" by Manfred Zirngibl ? If I am not mistaken, there should be a picture of similar short sword...I would be interested in its legend (I don´t have my books with me). In any case, based on my few days old find in here Nigeria and Luc´s notice, your sword, Tim, is very probably also from Nigeria (Igala ?) and I would like to apologize for previous hurry-scurry verdicts. Best regards, Martin

8th April 2010, 11:31 PM	#6
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Hi Luc, Thank you very much. I must say it was interesting lesson (for me) Regards, Martin P.S.: So Mambele description may be wrong ??