Seeking translation assistance on Indian Sossun Patah

RSWORD · 29th August 2020, 03:22 PM

Let me first thank those that provide translation assistance. It is very helpful and enlightening to the pieces we study. This is an Indian Sossun Patah sword with a hilt with extensive Arabic inscriptions. Am hoping someone will be able to translate. Also interesting is a trident mark beneath one langet and a two character Indian inscription above that. Am hoping someone is able to translate that as well.

RSWORD · 29th August 2020, 03:23 PM

Here are the blade markings.

Ian · 29th August 2020, 10:08 PM

Hi Rick,

Very interesting sword with its Mughal rehilt. Perhaps this picture is a little easier to see the trisula.

Ian

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Battara · 30th August 2020, 01:44 AM

Looks longer than the average sosun patah.

RSWORD · 30th August 2020, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Hi Rick,

Very interesting sword with its Mughal rehilt. Perhaps this picture is a little easier to see the trisula.

Ian

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Thanks for enhancing that picture Ian. It definitely is easier to see.

RSWORD · 30th August 2020, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Looks longer than the average sosun patah.

Yes, you are correct Jose. It is a pretty long sword.

kwiatek · 1st September 2020, 06:39 PM

The Arabic inscriptions are invocations of various Beautiful Names of God (traditionally held to be 99, though according to strict theology infinite in number), including

يا اله

"O God!”

يا رزاق

"O Sustainer”

يا سلام

"O Peace!”

etc.

Can’t help you with the Indian language inscription I’m afraid!

RSWORD · 1st September 2020, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwiatek

The Arabic inscriptions are invocations of various Beautiful Names of God (traditionally held to be 99, though according to strict theology infinite in number), including

يا اله

"O God!”

يا رزاق

"O Sustainer”

يا سلام

"O Peace!”

etc.

Can’t help you with the Indian language inscription I’m afraid!

Thank you very much Kwiatek! Great to know what the inscriptions say on the handle.

kwiatek · 1st September 2020, 11:28 PM

Pleasure! I suspect the inscription on the blade is in Kannada, but I’m far from sure

RobT · 2nd September 2020, 04:04 AM

Hi RSWORD,

The first digit appears to be a Devnagiri 2 and the second digit may be a 5 (although the curlicue at the bottom is atypical. You can look up Devnagiri numerals on line and see what you think.

Sincerely,
RobT

kronckew · 2nd September 2020, 10:06 AM

Can we see the whole sword please. The tip is off-camera in the first post.

29th August 2020, 03:22 PM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	Seeking translation assistance on Indian Sossun Patah Let me first thank those that provide translation assistance. It is very helpful and enlightening to the pieces we study. This is an Indian Sossun Patah sword with a hilt with extensive Arabic inscriptions. Am hoping someone will be able to translate. Also interesting is a trident mark beneath one langet and a two character Indian inscription above that. Am hoping someone is able to translate that as well. Attached Images

29th August 2020, 03:23 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	Here are the blade markings. Attached Images

29th August 2020, 10:08 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,198	Hi Rick, Very interesting sword with its Mughal rehilt. Perhaps this picture is a little easier to see the trisula. Ian . Attached Images

2nd September 2020, 04:04 AM	#10
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 489	Possible Devnagiri Numbers Hi RSWORD, The first digit appears to be a Devnagiri 2 and the second digit may be a 5 (although the curlicue at the bottom is atypical. You can look up Devnagiri numerals on line and see what you think. Sincerely, RobT

30th August 2020, 01:44 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Looks longer than the average sosun patah.

1st September 2020, 06:39 PM	#7
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	The Arabic inscriptions are invocations of various Beautiful Names of God (traditionally held to be 99, though according to strict theology infinite in number), including يا اله "O God!” يا رزاق "O Sustainer” يا سلام "O Peace!” etc. Can’t help you with the Indian language inscription I’m afraid!

1st September 2020, 11:28 PM	#9
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	Pleasure! I suspect the inscription on the blade is in Kannada, but I’m far from sure

2nd September 2020, 10:06 AM	#11
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	Can we see the whole sword please. The tip is off-camera in the first post.