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I have recently acquired a sendirung from Lombok when I follow the terminologie from Djelenga in his book "Keris di Lombok", page 336.
The long dagger is 46 cm inside scabbard, the pamor blade is 30,5 cm. The scabbard is covered with mamas sheet. By time it will receive an etch to bring out the lamination. All comments are welcome. |
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Here together with my cundrik for size comparison.
There is in accordance with Djelenga a third similar weapon, called tempius, the blade by this weapon has a star formed cross section of the blade. |
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Sajen, is this a repurposed tombak? Very nicely done.
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Hello Charles,
I don't think so. Djelenga described a chundrik with a blade similar to a keris without gonjo, a sendirung with a blade like a tombak and a tempius with a blade with star cross section. I am not aware of a tombak blade like the blade in question. Regards, Detlef |
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All members who own a chundrik, a tempius or a sendirung can feel free to post their examples for comparison, Ian for example once posted a very nice chundrik when I remember correctly.
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At Sajen's request, my cundrik from Lombok.
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Hello Detlef,
Thanks for posting! Quote:
Some spears also come with very slender blades. Considering the traditional devotion to recycling throughout the archipelago, I can well imagine a worn-down spear head given a second life as a functional dagger since the forces on the blade are quite different. The asymmetrical base of your example also makes me think of a possibly damaged spear blade; OTOH this could also be argued to be part of the original design... BTW, is the attribution to Lombok based on actual place of collection? Regards, Kai |
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Thank you for your comments! The blades by sendirung are always formed like a tombak blade, of course it's possible that recycled spear blades get used as blades for them, only the maker will know exactly. I've purchased it from a German auction house, by the attribution to Lombok I just followed Djelenga. Regards, Detlef |
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After " a long rest ", far from the forum , I start a journey visiting the last posts and this one will be the first one I will reply .
Detlef requested some pictures of cundrik . Here are 3 from my collection . First one shows a cundrik with luk in blade and pamor , which is from what I was told a bit more scarce than straight blades ( Djelenga refers only to straight blades ) Before and after repairs and etching . Second one a cundrik straight blade and pamor before and after etching . And finally a cendirung but with sarong in tubular shape . |
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Hello Henri,
Very nice examples and great restoration you have done! Do you have a picture where the second one is again compound? Regards, Detlef |
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Yes Detlef ,
Here we are … Henri |
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Picrures
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"Star shaped" I wonder if this would qualify. Bought some time ago as a spearhead, but from where. The tang says Philippine to me but others disagree.
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