Help ID - Algeria?

DaveA · 30th April 2018, 12:13 AM

Hello All,

I acquired this dagger/short sword last year and I'm just now getting around to figuring out what it is. The seller suggested it might be Algerian. It doesn't look like anything Berber that I've seen. It doesn't seem particularly old. The blade is well made solid in the hilt.

Your thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Dave A.

Sajen · 30th April 2018, 12:45 AM

Hi Dave,

it is Algerian indeed so far I know and I agree with you that it isn't very old.

Regards,
Detlef

BBJW · 30th April 2018, 05:06 PM

Agreed as to not being very old. Algerian or Moroccan, I believe it shows European influence.- bj

Kubur · 30th April 2018, 05:27 PM

Hi,

It's Algerian, very much like the so-called weeding-flyssa.
They are short swords with flyssa blades and nimcha hilts.
Your dagger is an Algerian version of the Morrocan sboula...
Not very old, 1900-1962.

Kubur

fernando · 30th April 2018, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBJW

... I believe it shows European influence.- bj

The blade, yes

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Sajen · 30th April 2018, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

It's Algerian, very much like the so-called weeding-flyssa.
They are short swords with flyssa blades and nimcha hilts.
Your dagger is an Algerian version of the Morrocan sboula...
Not very old, 1900-1962.

Yes, I agree with everything, also with the dating, first half of the 20th century.

Regards,
Detlef

DaveA · 1st May 2018, 07:32 AM

Thank you all. This weapon may not be particularly newsworthy, but it is a good knife to hold and to admire. I’ve no doubt it could do very good service if called upon. Sometimes a well made blade stands on its own, and this is often as much as anyone can ask.

Dave A

colin henshaw · 1st May 2018, 07:49 AM

Interesting to see the cross form finial to the hilt. This of course, is also a form to be found in Berber and Tuareg work, sometimes called "Cross of Agadez".

30th April 2018, 12:13 AM	#1
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 413	Help ID - Algeria? Hello All, I acquired this dagger/short sword last year and I'm just now getting around to figuring out what it is. The seller suggested it might be Algerian. It doesn't look like anything Berber that I've seen. It doesn't seem particularly old. The blade is well made solid in the hilt. Your thoughts? Thanks in advance. Dave A. Attached Images

30th April 2018, 05:27 PM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, It's Algerian, very much like the so-called weeding-flyssa. They are short swords with flyssa blades and nimcha hilts. Your dagger is an Algerian version of the Morrocan sboula... Not very old, 1900-1962. Kubur Last edited by Kubur; 30th April 2018 at 05:51 PM.

30th April 2018, 12:45 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hi Dave, it is Algerian indeed so far I know and I agree with you that it isn't very old. Regards, Detlef

30th April 2018, 05:06 PM	#3
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 228	Agreed as to not being very old. Algerian or Moroccan, I believe it shows European influence.- bj

1st May 2018, 07:32 AM	#7
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 413	Thank you all. This weapon may not be particularly newsworthy, but it is a good knife to hold and to admire. I’ve no doubt it could do very good service if called upon. Sometimes a well made blade stands on its own, and this is often as much as anyone can ask. Dave A

1st May 2018, 07:49 AM	#8
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Interesting to see the cross form finial to the hilt. This of course, is also a form to be found in Berber and Tuareg work, sometimes called "Cross of Agadez".