Wavy dagger - info requested

migueldiaz · 14th April 2011, 10:39 AM

hello all ... just picked up this dagger. now am not really sure which country it came from. any comments or similarly-designed blades out there? thanks in advance!

David · 14th April 2011, 03:02 PM

Looks like the Philippine to me Miguel. Luzon?

David · 14th April 2011, 03:03 PM

It's fairly recent BTW. Hard to pinpoint, but latter part of the 20thC most likely.

migueldiaz · 14th April 2011, 03:14 PM

David, thanks for the comment

Indeed on the one hand, it strikes me as Luzon, too. On the other hand, the hilt shape (i.e., cylindrical) and ornamentation (the 'dots') are not typically Filipino. That's why I had some doubts. But now that you mentioned it, perhaps it really is a Luzon dagger. Thanks.

Spunjer · 14th April 2011, 03:32 PM

Shape of the handle throws off... but yeah, most likely filipino. Is it carabao horn.

Battara · 14th April 2011, 11:36 PM

I agree Luzon, perhaps even Ilokano, but very recent, certainly post WWII (note the thin aluminum spacers).

Lew · 14th April 2011, 11:44 PM

This could be an older Indian made knock off?

migueldiaz · 15th April 2011, 02:33 PM

Thanks for all the comments!

Fheng · 21st September 2012, 08:20 AM

Hi there.
I have some pictures of a dagger of very similar design here.

I acquired it from a person who said it of middle-eastern origin, though I'm not sure if that is a fact or a guess.

Here is my number
Number 5

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this reply

David R · 21st September 2012, 10:04 PM

I think this one could be Indian, I have seen similar stamped "India", or "made in India".

David · 21st September 2012, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fheng

Hi there.
I have some pictures of a dagger of very similar design here.

I acquired it from a person who said it of middle-eastern origin, though I'm not sure if that is a fact or a guess.

Here is my number
Number 5

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this reply

I don't know if it's just me, but all these links come up as invalid for me.
As i stated before, i have a blade almost exactly like this and i am still wiling to bet it is from the Philippines. The sheath is horn like the handle on the front side and wood on the other side with the same aluminum stud designs on the front face. A very low rent dagger that i spent less than the price of a dinner on, but it is big, awesome sharp and dangerous.

Fheng · 22nd September 2012, 05:17 AM

It's a nice and cheap little dagger, not the best looking scabbard for it though but I really like the blade.
If these pictures don't work them I don't know what will

David · 22nd September 2012, 07:33 AM

Yep, that is exactly the same as mine. Where every this is from, so is mine. Still betting the Philippines...

Fheng · 23rd September 2012, 12:42 AM

Hahaha that's interesting David

I think it's a nice dagger for what I paid. I find the scabbard a bit ugly but the blade is very sharp and it's got a bit of weight to it.
If we can find out more about these daggers it would be great because I'd like to know as much as I can

Cheers

Rick · 23rd September 2012, 04:13 AM

India for fifty dollars, Alex .

Robert · 23rd September 2012, 05:25 AM

I had one of these a couple of years ago that had "LUZON" carved into the scabbard. I also had a pair of these with the same hilts and horn and wood scabbards that did not have wavy blades but straight double edged blades. Philippines for my money.

Robert

David · 23rd September 2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fheng

Hahaha that's interesting David

I think it's a nice dagger for what I paid. I find the scabbard a bit ugly but the blade is very sharp and it's got a bit of weight to it.
If we can find out more about these daggers it would be great because I'd like to know as much as I can

Cheers

Frankly Fheng, while i might pick up this blade in a knife fight (mine is pretty big and sharp) i don't think they are really worth putting too much research into (unless, of course, i choose to take Rick up on that bet

). Not any real historical value here. They are cheaply made, mostly, i would think, for the tourist trade.

Fheng · 23rd September 2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Frankly Fheng, while i might pick up this blade in a knife fight (mine is pretty big and sharp) i don't think they are really worth putting too much research into (unless, of course, i choose to take Rick up on that bet

). Not any real historical value here. They are cheaply made, mostly, i would think, for the tourist trade.

Well I just thought it would be nice to know a bit more about it. But yeah, it's a cheap tourist knife so I'll just forget it. Check out my other post if you like. It would be great to get some more info http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16125

Atlantia · 23rd September 2012, 10:59 PM

I'm with the majority on this one.
Philippine

VANDOO · 24th September 2012, 05:54 AM

I VOTE PHILIPPINE MOST LIKELY A SHOP IN LUZON. THE FIRST I SAW WERE IN THE MID 1960'S AND I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF THEM OVER THE YEARS TO THINK THEY MADE QUITE A FEW INITIALLY AND THEN STOPPED PERHAPS SALES WERE NOT GOOD AT THE TIME AND PLACE.? I HAVE ONE AROUND HERE SOME WHERE I WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. IT HAS A GOOD HEAVY WAVEY BLADE BUT KIND OF A STRANGE HANDLE FOR A PHILIPPINE DAGGER.
I HAVE SEEN THE KNIVES FROM INDIA AND THERE IS A RESEMBLENCE BUT MATERIALS AND BLADES ARE NOT QUITE AS GOOD ON THE ONES I HAVE SEEN. DID THE INDIANS COPY THE PHILIPPINES OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND OR JUST COIENCIDENCE

14th April 2011, 10:39 AM	#1
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Wavy dagger - info requested hello all ... just picked up this dagger. now am not really sure which country it came from. any comments or similarly-designed blades out there? thanks in advance! Attached Images

22nd September 2012, 05:17 AM	#12
Fheng Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 14	It's a nice and cheap little dagger, not the best looking scabbard for it though but I really like the blade. If these pictures don't work them I don't know what will Attached Images

14th April 2011, 03:02 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Looks like the Philippine to me Miguel. Luzon?

14th April 2011, 03:03 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	It's fairly recent BTW. Hard to pinpoint, but latter part of the 20thC most likely.

14th April 2011, 03:14 PM	#4
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	David, thanks for the comment Indeed on the one hand, it strikes me as Luzon, too. On the other hand, the hilt shape (i.e., cylindrical) and ornamentation (the 'dots') are not typically Filipino. That's why I had some doubts. But now that you mentioned it, perhaps it really is a Luzon dagger. Thanks.

14th April 2011, 03:32 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Shape of the handle throws off... but yeah, most likely filipino. Is it carabao horn.

14th April 2011, 11:36 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	I agree Luzon, perhaps even Ilokano, but very recent, certainly post WWII (note the thin aluminum spacers).

14th April 2011, 11:44 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	This could be an older Indian made knock off?

15th April 2011, 02:33 PM	#8
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Thanks for all the comments!

21st September 2012, 08:20 AM	#9
Fheng Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 14	Hi there. I have some pictures of a dagger of very similar design here. I acquired it from a person who said it of middle-eastern origin, though I'm not sure if that is a fact or a guess. Here is my number Number 5 I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this reply

21st September 2012, 10:04 PM	#10
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	I think this one could be Indian, I have seen similar stamped "India", or "made in India".

22nd September 2012, 07:33 AM	#13
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Yep, that is exactly the same as mine. Where every this is from, so is mine. Still betting the Philippines...

23rd September 2012, 12:42 AM	#14
Fheng Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 14	Hahaha that's interesting David I think it's a nice dagger for what I paid. I find the scabbard a bit ugly but the blade is very sharp and it's got a bit of weight to it. If we can find out more about these daggers it would be great because I'd like to know as much as I can Cheers

23rd September 2012, 04:13 AM	#15
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,294	India for fifty dollars, Alex .

23rd September 2012, 05:25 AM	#16
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I had one of these a couple of years ago that had "LUZON" carved into the scabbard. I also had a pair of these with the same hilts and horn and wood scabbards that did not have wavy blades but straight double edged blades. Philippines for my money. Robert

23rd September 2012, 10:59 PM	#19
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I'm with the majority on this one. Philippine

24th September 2012, 05:54 AM	#20
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I VOTE PHILIPPINE MOST LIKELY A SHOP IN LUZON. THE FIRST I SAW WERE IN THE MID 1960'S AND I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF THEM OVER THE YEARS TO THINK THEY MADE QUITE A FEW INITIALLY AND THEN STOPPED PERHAPS SALES WERE NOT GOOD AT THE TIME AND PLACE.? I HAVE ONE AROUND HERE SOME WHERE I WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. IT HAS A GOOD HEAVY WAVEY BLADE BUT KIND OF A STRANGE HANDLE FOR A PHILIPPINE DAGGER. I HAVE SEEN THE KNIVES FROM INDIA AND THERE IS A RESEMBLENCE BUT MATERIALS AND BLADES ARE NOT QUITE AS GOOD ON THE ONES I HAVE SEEN. DID THE INDIANS COPY THE PHILIPPINES OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND OR JUST COIENCIDENCE