Cirebon Keris with Ganesha hilt

[VVV]

In the thread on the unusual Maduranese "wing" Keris we also discussed Cirebon Keris with Ganesha hilts.
At that time I could only find one reference picture of a friend's Keris.
But last month I managed to find one for myself.
I am not sure about if the pamor description is correct?
Had a look in Tammens and guessed that Brondong was the closest?
In Ensiklopedi Keris I couldn't find this pamor to compare?
Also do you think that the meditating kneeling man on the Sorsoran could be described as Tunggak Semi?

More pictures at

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

[David]

Originally Posted by VVV

Also do you think that the meditating kneeling man on the Sorsoran could be described as Tunggak Semi?

Michael, i cannot see that very well in the photos you provided, but if a kneeling man is what YOU see then i would say the answer is yes.

I believe Tunggak Semi is somewhat intrinsically subjective.

[VVV]

Thanks David,

I agree it is very subjective and I also notice that it's not as clear on my pictures as IRL. The reason I was unsure on the Tunggak Semi is that it is so much larger on this Keris than the examples of this pamor in the books.
Here is a close up of the motif.

Michael

Originally Posted by David

Michael, i cannot see that very well in the photos you provided, but if a kneeling man is what YOU see then i would say the answer is yes.

I believe Tunggak Semi is somewhat intrinsically subjective.

[drdavid]

Hi Michael,
that last photo shows a very nice kneeling man I think. I thought I would show a nice ebony Balinese Ganesha hilt (even if a little off topic)
cheers
David

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by drdavid

Hi Michael,
that last photo shows a very nice kneeling man I think. I thought I would show a nice ebony Balinese Ganesha hilt (even if a little off topic)
cheers
David

Hi David,
Yes, your's a nice Balinese Ganesha hilt form. But I do believe that Michael's is a Ganesha form as well, which has been veiled with floral and vegetative foliage.

An example of the hilt form can be found in:
Ref: M Kerner's - Keris-Griffe Aus Museen Und Privatsammlungen, Pg: 70, Fig: G89. Batara Ganesha hilt form.