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Has anyone seen any sword holders that are wall mounted in the Philippines?
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I think I know what you are referring to as far as the Indo holders go . These are made to be worn on a belt at your back with the board portion facing downward to keep the bare blade away from the legs ; they are not really meant as display pieces for the house ; more for field work although they are nicely carved .
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![]() Do you have any examples? Were any of these "scabbards" made and used in the PI (and when)? Thanks. |
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Pictures .
I don't know if these were used in Philippine field agriculture ; but it seems quite possible . |
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nope. just your basic tagub and sundang...
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![]() If this is a Moro piece, when and where was it used? You do not see these around. |
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As for emeritus it's a typo ; should read 'emeticus" ! ![]() ![]() After almost ten years I am out of the harness . ![]() Only an oversight keeps my name on the Moderators list . ![]() |
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BSMStar,
the term tagub actually mean scabbard, which could be on any type of sword. we're just used to the term applied on moro weapon, but the term is also used in the visayas region and some parts of luzon. rick, not quite sure about moro household, but in the visayas, as far as i'm concern, farmers just hang their sidearm where ever it's available... |
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THERE IS AN OLD POST ON THESE SOMEWHERE IN THE ARCHIVES THERE WERE PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PICTURES WILL STILL BE THERE BUT THE INFORMATION SHOULD. I CAN'T REMEMBER MUCH ELSE RIGHT NOW OLD AGE OR JUST BRAIN LOCK
![]() I JUST SEARCHED AND FOUND THE POST IT WAS POSTED 6/19/2002 BY Rsword AND TITELED ( INTERESTING CARVED SWORD OR KRIS WALL HANGER. THE PICTURES ON MY 3 EXAMPLES ARE STILL THERE, THEY WERE FROM CENTRAL JAVA NEAR SURAKARTA, TAKE A LOOK. I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THESE BEING USED IN THE PHILIPPINES ONLY IN INDONESIA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. |
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Thanks VANDOO!!!!!
I am terrible at searches so here is the link to help others... http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001023.html Its good stuff! ![]() ![]() Are these from Indonesia, PI or maybe even somewhere in-between? Were they worn on the person or hung up on a wall? It seems they are meant to hold a sword... or some kind of weapon. Thanks Spunjer, I am getting old and senile... ![]() Gee, this is just what I need... a new area to collect (my wife is going to kill me and then hang my new sword from it). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by BSMStar; 20th June 2006 at 07:09 PM. |
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These AFAIK are Indonesian ; possibly Javanese in origin .
The flat part goes downward and the piece is worn at the small of the back . As for the decoration ; it would not be outside the cultural norm to beautify such an everyday item . I'll bet there are guys in America that have flames painted on their riding lawnmowers . ![]() ![]() |
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i got a "quiksilver" sticker on one of my kris scabbards
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Bwahahaha !!
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Let me see if I have this straight… the holders come for Indonesia, likely Java (but the carvings look like they my not be), they are hand carved by their owners and worn on their back to attract chicks (unless it is hanging on a wall), are decorated with custom flame jobs or redneck racing stickers (if Visayan – then it is a “do not touch” sticker)… gee, I think I am just about ready to write a book on it now.
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