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Old 13th September 2013, 06:45 PM   #1
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Hi everybody ,
I hope that someone can help me to identify the markings of this medieval sword
The size from this word is about 130 cm.
Any comment on it will be welcome.
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Old 13th September 2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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Old 14th September 2013, 10:49 AM   #3
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Hi,
The cross and arrows symbol was a badge of the Schützenbrudershaften, the citizen militias in Germany (and neighbouring regions, Austria, Tyrol, Switzerland, ca. 14th-17th century), still used today by historical reenactment societies.
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Old 14th September 2013, 05:14 PM   #4
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Can't say for sure, but the cross on the pommel reminds that on the Jerusalem kingdom coat of arms. Wonderful sword, by the way.
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Hi Zwielicht & Andreas
Thank you for your comment about the pommel marks.
So the last mark is this Arrow on the blade , It would be fantastic if someone could tell me more about the signification from this mark.
A last particularity from this sword is size with a blade about 1 meter ( 40 inches ) and hilt about 27 centimeters It could be the size for a two hands sword .
any comment on it would be welcome


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Old 26th September 2013, 08:41 AM   #6
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Hi Zwielicht & Andreas
Thank you for your comment about the pommel marks.
So the last mark is this Arrow on the blade , It would be fantastic if someone could tell me more about the signification from this mark.
A last particularity from this sword is size with a blade about 1 meter ( 40 inches ) and hilt about 27 centimeters It could be the size for a two hands sword .
any comment on it would be welcome


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The Shutzenbrudershaften were armed initially with bows and crossbows (like their Dutch equivalent the Shutterij, of Rembrandt’s the Night Watch fame) so that would account for the arrow on the blade. From the 17th century they were gradually replaced by mercenaries, and eventually evolved to the well known contemporary shooters guilds (shooting clubs) of German speaking countries.
They always had very strong ties with the church and provided guard during religious festivals and processions. That would explain the cross potent on the pommel. As for the sword itself, perhaps Oakeshott XIIa?
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Old 28th September 2013, 02:05 AM   #7
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Outstanding information Andreas!!! and I have been able to add to my notes accordingly. Thank you so much.
Clearly an amazing example Jean Luc and thank you for sharing it here.

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The Shutzenbrudershaften were armed initially with bows and crossbows (like their Dutch equivalent the Shutterij, of Rembrandt’s the Night Watch fame) so that would account for the arrow on the blade. From the 17th century they were gradually replaced by mercenaries, and eventually evolved to the well known contemporary shooters guilds (shooting clubs) of German speaking countries.
They always had very strong ties with the church and provided guard during religious festivals and processions. That would explain the cross potent on the pommel. As for the sword itself, perhaps Oakeshott XIIa?
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Dear Andreas

Many thanks for this precious information !

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Old 25th September 2013, 09:51 PM   #9
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Can't say for sure, but the cross on the pommel reminds that on the Jerusalem kingdom coat of arms. Wonderful sword, by the way.
The Jerusalem cross is adorned by four crosslets. This one alone is the so called Cross Potent (Krückenkreuz), mostly found in Roman Catholic insignia.
This sword being authentic, falling into the XIII-XIX century period, is something extremely rare and highly valuable, only seen in museums and special collections; am i wrong ?

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