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Hello, could you please translate the inscriptions in the yataghan? In the first photo of the "tugra" design, it looks like the cyrilic letter "Φ", could that be the case?
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A nice old yataghan, in much need on love. On the Cyrillic character, i think just is just a coincidence that it looks like that. The first portion reads, Work of Usmaan, Owner Ibraahiim, year 1110 it is 1433 now I think, there are websites where you can input the year and would give you the AD. I can't make anything out of the second inscription since it is in Turkish, but we have a few guys here you could help you with that.
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To convert an Islamic date one subtracts three percent first, thens adds six hundred and twenty two.
1110 X .03 = 33 1110 - 33 = 1077 1077 + 622 = 1699 This yataghan looks to be 19th century, sometimes important historical dates are used. rand |
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Dear AJ1356, and Rand Thank you for your comments!
Dear Rand, i ma very happy to see you, it has been a long time!!! You have told me in the past about this style of inlay, (that is hammered with triangles like punches) that is older than koftgari. Taking that into account, you think there is apossibility to be 1699 the real production date of this yataghan? |
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Hello Eftihis,
Am hoping your are finding many treasure there. The over strike triangular punch style inlay is mostly associated with Ottoman inlay work. The koftgari style of overlay is an older technique of the two. Assuming the blade has a spine with two grooves, 1750-1850 would be the likely time period of the blade. If you can identify Ottoman ruler with this Tugra the time of use can be narrowed. The yataghans of this type usually are mid 18th C. through the 19th C. Nice yataghan, rand |
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Well, this high quality yataghan has the tugra of Mohamed Ali, the ruler of Egypt.
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Great tugra example on a yataghan Eftihis. We can safely assume the Eftihis' yataghan had a period of use starting sometime between 1769-1849, the reign of Muhammad Ali Pasha.
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Hi Efhitis,
Name of the maker, owner and date are as follows: Amel-i Osman Beşe Cemaat 3 Sahib İbrahim Beşe Sene 1111 Work of Osman Beşe of 3rd Janissary Cemaat, Owner İbrahim Beşe, Year 1699-1700 I could not figure out the second inscription completely, even though I am sure it is Turkish. I will let you know if I make any breakthrough ![]() |
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Thank you very much Zifir, great as always!
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