Some Philippine Swords for Viewing

drac2k · 4th July 2016, 05:58 PM

It's been a while since I've posted anything constructive, so I thought I'd show some of my recent Philippine sword (and knife), acquisitions.I think they are mostly Visayan and from Luzon.
As usual any comments are appreciated.

Sajen · 4th July 2016, 07:58 PM

Wow, nice new toys!

Again, some of this pieces seems to be worth a own thread, The Visayan dagger is just beautiful and I really would like to see more pictures from the sword with the twisted ball handle from horn!

Best regards,
Detlef

CharlesS · 4th July 2016, 08:11 PM

Drac2k,

These are not really in my wheelhouse, but I can see you have good taste! Lovely pieces!

drac2k · 4th July 2016, 10:31 PM

Thank you for your kind comments, gentlemen.
Sajen, here are some additional pictures of the sword you expressed an interest in.It is very much a cleaving weapon, the blade measures 21.75" x 1.75" at it's widest and 3/8" thick at the base of the spine.

carlos · 5th July 2016, 05:12 PM

You are a very good hunter !! very nice pieces !
Congratulations... The dagger is my favourite piece
Thanks

carlos

drac2k · 5th July 2016, 05:20 PM

Thank you Carlos; it is one of my favorites too !

Sajen · 5th July 2016, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Thank you for your kind comments, gentlemen.
Sajen, here are some additional pictures of the sword you expressed an interest in.It is very much a cleaving weapon, the blade measures 21.75" x 1.75" at it's widest and 3/8" thick at the base of the spine.

Thank you Drac2k,

what a great sword!

From which material are the inlays? Am I correct to see two different metals? Do have a own guess from where it coming?

I think that it has a very good age!

Best regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 5th July 2016, 07:24 PM

Thanks Sajen ; I would guess gold(and or brass), and silver, but this is only a guess.The blade feels like,it resembles(to me), a Dyak mandau, but the motifs look like it could be a Moro Mindanao piece.I think it is one of those cross cultural pieces(how's that for covering my bases ?).

Sajen · 5th July 2016, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Thanks Sajen ; I would guess gold(and or brass), and silver, but this is only a guess.The blade feels like,it resembles(to me), a Dyak mandau, but the motifs look like it could be a Moro Mindanao piece.I think it is one of those cross cultural pieces(how's that for covering my bases ?).

My best guess would be Bicol or nearby. But this is just my guess and I could be wrong. The thickness of the blade, the shape at the base, all this let me think like this. But from where it ever coming, it's a beautiful sword, I am green with envy!

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 5th July 2016, 10:52 PM

Thanks again,I'll check Bicol blades.

Sajen · 5th July 2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Thanks again,I'll check Bicol blades.

Have look here for example: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bicol

But like said, it's my feeling only, I am not sure and others will think different.

Best regards,
Detlef

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 5th July 2016, 11:56 PM

Here are some more from https://www.google.com/search?q=phil...Uf-t6czMK_M%3A

Robert · 6th July 2016, 02:17 AM

Drack2k, Thank you very much for sharing photos of your new acquisitions as they are each beautiful pieces in their own right. I must also say that I am also in agreement with Detlef on not only his opinion on these swords, but with the idea that each of these deserve their own separate thread.

Best,
Robert

drac2k · 6th July 2016, 03:38 AM

Thank you. Lately I've been going with the shotgun approach, posting several pieces and letting the Forum comment on what if anything that interests them, knowing full well what might appeal to me, might not to others.

Robert · 6th July 2016, 04:35 PM

If you would not mind posting them, I would like to see a few photos showing the hilts on the longer swords on the right hand side of the group photo.

Best,
Robert

drac2k · 6th July 2016, 11:38 PM

I think these are the pictures that you requested.Sorry that I could not provide pictures sooner, but I have to depend on my wife to take them; usually this is not a problem, unless I open my big mouth(which usually is a problem), which can cause delays in the picture taking process.

Robert · 8th July 2016, 04:04 AM

Hello Drac2k, Thank you for posting the photos of these two very interesting swords. I am very sorry it has taken so long for my reply, but I have been extremely preoccupied with trying to get caught up on a work backlog and just now noticed them. I know that I should have ask about measurements at the same time I requested the photos, but as I did not, would you also be so kind as to supply them as well?

Best,
Robert

drac2k · 8th July 2016, 04:15 AM

No problem, that I can do; 25" and 27" long respectively.

Sajen · 8th July 2016, 08:44 PM

Like Charles said before, you have a good taste and good eyes.

drac2k · 8th July 2016, 09:37 PM

Thanks, I try to post my successes;you don't get to see the lemons !

Sajen · 8th July 2016, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Thanks, I try to post my successes;you don't get to see the lemons !

Robert · 9th July 2016, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k
Thanks, I try to post my successes;you don't get to see the lemons !

I'm pretty sure that we all have that box setting in the corner filled with our mistakes. There is always that piece (the one in the poor photos) that we just have to take a chance on. Sometimes we win and get a diamond

other times the box gets more crowded.

Best,
Robert

Gavin Nugent · 16th July 2016, 07:43 AM

A few of mine for show.

Gavin

drac2k · 23rd July 2016, 08:36 PM

Fantastic ! I love the incorporation of the guard in traditional weapons that don't usually have them;is this because of European influence or is it a naturally occurring transition ?

kai · 24th July 2016, 05:32 AM

European influence - over all the knuckle guard was never very popular throughout the archipelago...

Regards,
Kai

4th July 2016, 05:58 PM	#1
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Some Philippine Swords for Viewing It's been a while since I've posted anything constructive, so I thought I'd show some of my recent Philippine sword (and knife), acquisitions.I think they are mostly Visayan and from Luzon. As usual any comments are appreciated. Attached Images

4th July 2016, 10:31 PM	#4
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thank you for your kind comments, gentlemen. Sajen, here are some additional pictures of the sword you expressed an interest in.It is very much a cleaving weapon, the blade measures 21.75" x 1.75" at it's widest and 3/8" thick at the base of the spine. Attached Images

5th July 2016, 11:56 PM	#12
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Here are some more from https://www.google.com/search?q=phil...Uf-t6czMK_M%3A Attached Images

6th July 2016, 11:38 PM	#16
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	I think these are the pictures that you requested.Sorry that I could not provide pictures sooner, but I have to depend on my wife to take them; usually this is not a problem, unless I open my big mouth(which usually is a problem), which can cause delays in the picture taking process. Attached Images

16th July 2016, 07:43 AM	#23
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A few of mine A few of mine for show. Gavin Attached Images

4th July 2016, 07:58 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Wow, nice new toys! Again, some of this pieces seems to be worth a own thread, The Visayan dagger is just beautiful and I really would like to see more pictures from the sword with the twisted ball handle from horn! Best regards, Detlef

4th July 2016, 08:11 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Drac2k, These are not really in my wheelhouse, but I can see you have good taste! Lovely pieces!

5th July 2016, 05:12 PM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	You are a very good hunter !! very nice pieces ! Congratulations... The dagger is my favourite piece Thanks carlos

5th July 2016, 05:20 PM	#6
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thank you Carlos; it is one of my favorites too !

5th July 2016, 07:24 PM	#8
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thanks Sajen ; I would guess gold(and or brass), and silver, but this is only a guess.The blade feels like,it resembles(to me), a Dyak mandau, but the motifs look like it could be a Moro Mindanao piece.I think it is one of those cross cultural pieces(how's that for covering my bases ?).

5th July 2016, 10:52 PM	#10
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thanks again,I'll check Bicol blades.

6th July 2016, 02:17 AM	#13
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Drack2k, Thank you very much for sharing photos of your new acquisitions as they are each beautiful pieces in their own right. I must also say that I am also in agreement with Detlef on not only his opinion on these swords, but with the idea that each of these deserve their own separate thread. Best, Robert

6th July 2016, 03:38 AM	#14
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thank you. Lately I've been going with the shotgun approach, posting several pieces and letting the Forum comment on what if anything that interests them, knowing full well what might appeal to me, might not to others.

6th July 2016, 04:35 PM	#15
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	If you would not mind posting them, I would like to see a few photos showing the hilts on the longer swords on the right hand side of the group photo. Best, Robert

8th July 2016, 04:04 AM	#17
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Drac2k, Thank you for posting the photos of these two very interesting swords. I am very sorry it has taken so long for my reply, but I have been extremely preoccupied with trying to get caught up on a work backlog and just now noticed them. I know that I should have ask about measurements at the same time I requested the photos, but as I did not, would you also be so kind as to supply them as well? Best, Robert

8th July 2016, 04:15 AM	#18
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	No problem, that I can do; 25" and 27" long respectively.

8th July 2016, 08:44 PM	#19
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Like Charles said before, you have a good taste and good eyes.

8th July 2016, 09:37 PM	#20
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thanks, I try to post my successes;you don't get to see the lemons !

23rd July 2016, 08:36 PM	#24
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Fantastic ! I love the incorporation of the guard in traditional weapons that don't usually have them;is this because of European influence or is it a naturally occurring transition ?

24th July 2016, 05:32 AM	#25
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	European influence - over all the knuckle guard was never very popular throughout the archipelago... Regards, Kai