Side arm ID please

[Gavin Nugent]

Hello,

These sidearms, I've never seen others like them... can anyone ID them? I've simply no idea where exotic regulation pattern arms are concerned.

With thanks

Gavin

[Jim McDougall]

Without hittin the books, I would say these are pretty much munitions French arms that fall into the 'galle' (rooster or chicken pommel but stylized) and early to mid 19th c. They recall some of the military cadet swords of late 18th early 19th. These seem to be of the kind for auxiliary unit sidearms often more utilitarian.

[Gavin Nugent]

G'day Jim, thank you for your insight with them.

A clear image of the swords attached.

They've got me totally stumped.

[Jim McDougall]

OK, so these are surely not 'butterfly knives' !! and after pretty much pondering these half the night......I realize these are EAGLE heads!!
Use of the eagle head on military hilts pretty much goes to many nations but primarily US, and Holland with other exceptions.

These seem like other ranks type swords for sappers etc. but these typically had saw backs. The raised ridge bevel type blades look like a 19th c. type Ive seen on Civil War period 'bowie' cutlass type weapons but that is not of course a determining factor.

Still lookin'. !

[awdaniec666]

Looks a bit like old props for theaters

[Tordenskiold1721]

The blades look to functional to be theater props. The photos posted below is the same as the auction house has posted on their website. I guess Gavin wants to find out if they are worth making a bid on:

https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/t...slot/i6325144/

[Maj-Biffy Snodgrass]

Interesting, have never met anything like them before but that they do appear to have once had locking scabbards going by the first pic, the pommels look very Germanic to me, interesting things indeed, jolly good. Snoddy